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[heidi]

This is probably the most difficult post I've made here on LJ in a long time, if ever.

This morning, nostrademons emailed me and praetorianguard regarding some IP matches that he did using information posted on recent Charlotte Lennox posts on JournalFen and comments to those posts.

On JournalFen, el juno posted 68.82.43.3 as the address they have at JournalFen associated with Sporkify - as far as nostrademons, praetorianguard and I can tell, this is the first time that IP address has been publicly shared as a "sockpuppet" IP address. nostrademons ran it through FA's archives, and found that it did match the IP address used by MsScribe on FA in the winter and spring of 2004.

Back in March of 2004, when I was told that many GT'ers thought that Sporkify was an FA Mod, I did ask on the Yahoogroup we have for mod-organizational things whether anyone on said list was Sporkify, and MsScribe lied to me. She posted a reply and said that people thought it was someone on her flist, and then said, "Did they wank something else? *goes to look*"

I believed her, just as I believed all the other FA Mods who posted to that list that week and said they weren't Sporkify - and of course, everyone but MsScribe answered truthfully. But I believed her, and praetorianguard believed her, and so did everyone else. After that, there was one more wank posted by Sporkify on F_W - this one actually involved wanking about FA and some of its mods - and at almost the same time, MsScribe asked if she could resign from FA. I, of course, said yes, and she stopped modding on FA. She was on-staff from early June, 2003 (when I was on leave having my son Jon, then working on Nimbus) until late March, 2004, and in that time-frame was on leave for most of November and December.

Now, I know people are going to say that we should've figured this out before, but we had no information about Sporkify's IP address, and we had no expectation that JF would ever release it, because their ToU's Privacy Policy states, "Journalfen will never release your personal
information, to anyone, except as may be required by law, or in the course of any possible legal proceedings.... Journalfen will never sell, or otherwise make available, information that is not required for the normal display of your journal."

Back in the spring of 2003, praetorianguard and owlman tried to make it clear that FA mods were not acting for FA when they weren't posting on the site, and that only the two of them and I were authorized to act on behalf of FA off-site. Therefore, unless someone complained about MsScribe as an FA moderator or she violated the FA ToU in some way, none of this involved FA. At that time, nobody directly contacted me about it, afaik.

Personally, I am sorry anyone was hurt by anything that has happened in fandom over the last six years that I've been a part of it. I feel extremely duped and upset about this whole situation. That being said, I am all written-out at this point, and so I'm going to parrot Irina. It's so hard to understand how someone who has been so kind to me, and whom I've seen be kind to others, could also do this - could be untruthful directly to me.

I don't think I've ever posted anything publicly or semi-publicly to hurt any of the GT users. I am friends with people who had fics there, and who posted there, and I would never want to hurt them, or anyone else who was an innocent victim of anything or anyone, and I know everyone else on FA's org team feels the same way.

If I have, I apologize for it. All these years, I've thought this was something that had nothing to do with me, or with FictionAlley and I really still feel that 99% of it didn't - we don't have any conclusive information to add to the discussion regarding Fermatojam or Pottersginny, according to the investigating that nostrademons did of our database.

Comments

[hermorrine.livejournal.com]

*sighs loudly* What I want to know is why any of this needs to come up three years later. What's the point?!

I'm going to crawl back into my hidey hole now.

[edeainfj.livejournal.com]

The point is that people were hurt - both "enemies" and friends of Dionne - and now the fandom is coming together to recognize it and heal some old wounds. It's never too late to tell the truth, imo.

Heidi: thanks for posting this. =)

[hermorrine.livejournal.com]

We'll have to agree to disagree, then. I didn't have any wounds (though I rather do NOW), and I doubt that the person posting that 'biography' did either. This was done for spite, pure and simple.

[edeainfj.livejournal.com]

It was done to tell the truth. If you think that's spiteful, then there's not much more I can say.

[hermorrine.livejournal.com]

So telling the truth, even when it hurts many people, makes it okay?

[cleverthylacine]

I have to agree with you that the choice of the location and the way it was handled say a lot about the intentions of whoever is behind this. If Heidi says that she confimed the IPs with FA and that she spoke to Dionne then I believe her, and goodness, does it hurt to believe. But my experience with FW as a "Slytherfan" among other things is that they are never nearly as interested in the truth as they are in entertaining their audience, which in general thinks a very specific sort of thing is funny.

[chocolatepot.livejournal.com]

But Bad_Penny isn't F_W. It's not related to F_W, it's not affiliated with F_W, it's not run by the same mods.

(I know this is pretty insignificant, it's just one of those things that bothers me, like when people say 'jagwire' for 'jaguar' and such.)

[ashavah]

Well, I had wounds, and it's helping to heal them for me, although I'm sad that in healing the wounds of some, others have been hurt.

[chocolatepot.livejournal.com]

Yes, it's really lovely to see the people that believed MsScribe and reviled GT and the past GTers and even a prominent Harmonian all come together and heal.

Heidi, it's very brave of you to post this. It's a tumultuous time, but I think after it's all done, everyone will feel better.

[hermorrine.livejournal.com]

We obviously don't know the same people, because that's not what I'm seeing at all. I'm seeing people pointing and laughing, making fun of this and reveling in the meanspiritedness. It's 'Hey, Harry Potter Fandom is wankier than XYZ fandom!' time again.

I'd like to believe that this will somehow make things happy and shiny in the future, but I doubt it will.

[imaginarycircus.livejournal.com]

Oh please. It is people dredgiung up old crap for the amusement of others and nothing more. The people who were "hurt" in this would rather just let it die thank you.

[edeainfj.livejournal.com]

Um.... you're either 1) joking or 2) you haven't been reading what people - I should say the victims - from both sides have been saying.

For your sake, I hope it's option 1.

[alexandramuses.livejournal.com]

Word.

Sometimes I wish I'd joined the fandom two years before I did... but now is not one of those times. I'm very, very glad to be a mostly-nobody at the moment.

*hands Heidi a cup of delicious Dutch cocoa*

[anatsuno.livejournal.com]

some people get over things, and some stay hurt for a very long time. especially when the hurt involves massive injustice done to them, having cried in the wilderness for naught etc etc. The point seems to be for those at least that now this is older more people are ready to listen with a detached ear, and some of the injustice can be corrected. At least that's what it looks like is happening, if not only.

There might be other specific reasons for the timing, i think we might get to hear about those later on..

I'm sorry you're having a such a hard time. *pets and sends cookies*

[hermorrine.livejournal.com]

What injustice is there to be corrected? How can it possibly be corrected? Please let me know. I'd like to understand.

[edeainfj.livejournal.com]

What injustice is there to be corrected?

If you don't know the answer to that question, you haven't been reading the story.

[malaleen.livejournal.com]

But what about the people from GT and SQ who had their names and reputations smeared all over fandom? Don't they deserve to have the truth told?

[anatsuno.livejournal.com]

I would, but it's actually shorter if you go read the story. To be short, apparently some injustice was done to some of the GT and or SQ people. This is the short of it - and what I was refering to - the long is on JF.

[cleverthylacine]

I just can't understand why anyone would choose to do this there. The communities on that site are like Jerry Springer. I think that a lot of the people who resisted believing that any of this was true would have been more likely to accept it if it had been posted almost anywhere else.

PSA

[gunderpants.livejournal.com]

It has been posted on a livejournal account as well: charlottelennox.

[no-remorse.livejournal.com]

The bad_penny community could easily fall under the LJ harrassment rule, which means that one measley e-mail from anyone could have lead to its deletion. On JF this is very unlikely to happen. I don't know if this was the reason for putting the comm on JF, but it is possible.

[anatsuno.livejournal.com]

Sure. for serious PR, maybe choosing journalfen was a mistake. But knowing LJ and the speed at which LJAbuse sometimes suspends users to ahve the omg bas taste to offend someon with friends in the right places... I think I would have made the same choice as them, personally.

Also, not to imply that people aren't allowed to grow and evolve and change their minds, but you used to enjoy the Jerry Springer sandbox for a while, no? It's a little odd to think that now you find it all so "beneath you" or whatever. I think people do not have to approve all of what goes on on JF or in FW or on offshoot communities to partake, and that painting a whole site with one brush is a little ... easy and dumb.

For example, JF's TOS has little to do with the fact that one precise forum/community's moderator (FW) has chosen to release IP information s/he is privy to, from their own forum/comm. Esecially when the LJ code system has been designed so that people posting are made aware than their IP is logged AS THEY POST.

[mcity.livejournal.com]

The communities on that site are like Jerry Springer.

It's a bunch of dumb rednecks?

[saucy-wench.livejournal.com]

WORD

[grey-fuzzy.livejournal.com]

*sighs loudly* What I want to know is why any of this needs to come up three years later. What's the point?!

I'm going to crawl back into my hidey hole now.

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Aren't you a close friend of MsScribe? :/