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This is probably the most difficult post I've made here on LJ in a long time, if ever.

This morning, [livejournal.com profile] nostrademons emailed me and [livejournal.com profile] praetorianguard regarding some IP matches that he did using information posted on recent Charlotte Lennox posts on JournalFen and comments to those posts.

On JournalFen, el juno posted 68.82.43.3 as the address they have at JournalFen associated with Sporkify - as far as [livejournal.com profile] nostrademons, [livejournal.com profile] praetorianguard and I can tell, this is the first time that IP address has been publicly shared as a "sockpuppet" IP address. [livejournal.com profile] nostrademons ran it through FA's archives, and found that it did match the IP address used by MsScribe on FA in the winter and spring of 2004.

Back in March of 2004, when I was told that many GT'ers thought that Sporkify was an FA Mod, I did ask on the Yahoogroup we have for mod-organizational things whether anyone on said list was Sporkify, and MsScribe lied to me. She posted a reply and said that people thought it was someone on her flist, and then said, "Did they wank something else? *goes to look*"

I believed her, just as I believed all the other FA Mods who posted to that list that week and said they weren't Sporkify - and of course, everyone but MsScribe answered truthfully. But I believed her, and [livejournal.com profile] praetorianguard believed her, and so did everyone else. After that, there was one more wank posted by Sporkify on F_W - this one actually involved wanking about FA and some of its mods - and at almost the same time, MsScribe asked if she could resign from FA. I, of course, said yes, and she stopped modding on FA. She was on-staff from early June, 2003 (when I was on leave having my son Jon, then working on Nimbus) until late March, 2004, and in that time-frame was on leave for most of November and December.

Now, I know people are going to say that we should've figured this out before, but we had no information about Sporkify's IP address, and we had no expectation that JF would ever release it, because their ToU's Privacy Policy states, "Journalfen will never release your personal
information, to anyone, except as may be required by law, or in the course of any possible legal proceedings.... Journalfen will never sell, or otherwise make available, information that is not required for the normal display of your journal."

Back in the spring of 2003, [livejournal.com profile] praetorianguard and [livejournal.com profile] owlman tried to make it clear that FA mods were not acting for FA when they weren't posting on the site, and that only the two of them and I were authorized to act on behalf of FA off-site. Therefore, unless someone complained about MsScribe as an FA moderator or she violated the FA ToU in some way, none of this involved FA. At that time, nobody directly contacted me about it, afaik.

Personally, I am sorry anyone was hurt by anything that has happened in fandom over the last six years that I've been a part of it. I feel extremely duped and upset about this whole situation. That being said, I am all written-out at this point, and so I'm going to parrot Irina. It's so hard to understand how someone who has been so kind to me, and whom I've seen be kind to others, could also do this - could be untruthful directly to me.

I don't think I've ever posted anything publicly or semi-publicly to hurt any of the GT users. I am friends with people who had fics there, and who posted there, and I would never want to hurt them, or anyone else who was an innocent victim of anything or anyone, and I know everyone else on FA's org team feels the same way.

If I have, I apologize for it. All these years, I've thought this was something that had nothing to do with me, or with FictionAlley and I really still feel that 99% of it didn't - we don't have any conclusive information to add to the discussion regarding Fermatojam or Pottersginny, according to the investigating that [livejournal.com profile] nostrademons did of our database.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-20 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imaginarycircus.livejournal.com
Oh please. It is people dredgiung up old crap for the amusement of others and nothing more. The people who were "hurt" in this would rather just let it die thank you.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-20 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edeainfj.livejournal.com
Um.... you're either 1) joking or 2) you haven't been reading what people - I should say the victims - from both sides have been saying.

For your sake, I hope it's option 1.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-20 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imaginarycircus.livejournal.com
I'm not joking and I did read it. My name is all over it.

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Date: 2006-06-20 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edeainfj.livejournal.com
I honestly sympathize with the people who have considered Dionne (and others involved) as friends over the past few years. But I also believe it would be even crueller to have this information and not share it - not only for the sakes of GT members and Christina, for instance, but for the sake of Dionne herself, and for her friends, whether they decide to move on or stick by her and try to give her the help she seems to need. Although you think all this is mean-spirited, I honestly don't think it is - and I don't think most of the people reading this feel that way. I certainly don't approach it that way.

I don't recognize your name from the reports, but it seems you have a new LJ name now, so I guess that's why. In visiting your LJ, I saw that today is a difficult day for you, and I'm truly sorry that this situation is certainly not helping.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-20 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imaginarycircus.livejournal.com
OK, I'm, exhausted and having a very bad day and I think I misspoke or didn't say exactly what I meant. I was thinking only of the people who were friends with Dionne who were lied to. I was not thinking about GT people or anyone else.

I have PMS, it is my dead mother's birthday and after a lovely weekend away I come home to dozens of emails linking to me a JF comm that has lots of links to ancient journal entries of mine and I just found out an old friend lied to me on a number of occasions. So meaning what I say and saying what I mean are FUBAR and with that I now know it is time for me to turn off the iBook and walk away.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-20 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edeainfj.livejournal.com
Hon, I definitely understood your meaning after reading your second reply, and didn't take it in a negative way at all. I was typing my response as you posted this, but I do want to emphasize that none of this is mean-spirited on my part, and I do honestly care about the people who have been hurt. I'm sorry for my initial sarcastic response to you. It was based on my own misunderstanding of what you were saying.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-20 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imaginarycircus.livejournal.com
I don't think everyone involved is being so thoughtful. There are a lot of nasty posts over at bad_penny and here at lj about Dionne from people who were and were not involved at the time. I really don't think Dionne was the Devil and the GTers were all innocent sheep. Some of them were in up to their necks and unbelievably nasty at the time. I'm sure many of them were innocent, but not all.

And I do think this is all motivated by spite. This is not some great stab at healing the breach. I've been here for six years. If someone wanted to do that they would not have created a JF comm to do it.

BTW, I'm also [livejournal.com profile] ari_o_.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-22 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcity.livejournal.com
And I do think this is all motivated by spite.
Spite against who or what?

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-22 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imaginarycircus.livejournal.com
This responset was made be for I fully understood the situation. So just ignore it. If it wasn't wanky I'd delete it.

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