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This is probably the most difficult post I've made here on LJ in a long time, if ever.

This morning, [livejournal.com profile] nostrademons emailed me and [livejournal.com profile] praetorianguard regarding some IP matches that he did using information posted on recent Charlotte Lennox posts on JournalFen and comments to those posts.

On JournalFen, el juno posted 68.82.43.3 as the address they have at JournalFen associated with Sporkify - as far as [livejournal.com profile] nostrademons, [livejournal.com profile] praetorianguard and I can tell, this is the first time that IP address has been publicly shared as a "sockpuppet" IP address. [livejournal.com profile] nostrademons ran it through FA's archives, and found that it did match the IP address used by MsScribe on FA in the winter and spring of 2004.

Back in March of 2004, when I was told that many GT'ers thought that Sporkify was an FA Mod, I did ask on the Yahoogroup we have for mod-organizational things whether anyone on said list was Sporkify, and MsScribe lied to me. She posted a reply and said that people thought it was someone on her flist, and then said, "Did they wank something else? *goes to look*"

I believed her, just as I believed all the other FA Mods who posted to that list that week and said they weren't Sporkify - and of course, everyone but MsScribe answered truthfully. But I believed her, and [livejournal.com profile] praetorianguard believed her, and so did everyone else. After that, there was one more wank posted by Sporkify on F_W - this one actually involved wanking about FA and some of its mods - and at almost the same time, MsScribe asked if she could resign from FA. I, of course, said yes, and she stopped modding on FA. She was on-staff from early June, 2003 (when I was on leave having my son Jon, then working on Nimbus) until late March, 2004, and in that time-frame was on leave for most of November and December.

Now, I know people are going to say that we should've figured this out before, but we had no information about Sporkify's IP address, and we had no expectation that JF would ever release it, because their ToU's Privacy Policy states, "Journalfen will never release your personal
information, to anyone, except as may be required by law, or in the course of any possible legal proceedings.... Journalfen will never sell, or otherwise make available, information that is not required for the normal display of your journal."

Back in the spring of 2003, [livejournal.com profile] praetorianguard and [livejournal.com profile] owlman tried to make it clear that FA mods were not acting for FA when they weren't posting on the site, and that only the two of them and I were authorized to act on behalf of FA off-site. Therefore, unless someone complained about MsScribe as an FA moderator or she violated the FA ToU in some way, none of this involved FA. At that time, nobody directly contacted me about it, afaik.

Personally, I am sorry anyone was hurt by anything that has happened in fandom over the last six years that I've been a part of it. I feel extremely duped and upset about this whole situation. That being said, I am all written-out at this point, and so I'm going to parrot Irina. It's so hard to understand how someone who has been so kind to me, and whom I've seen be kind to others, could also do this - could be untruthful directly to me.

I don't think I've ever posted anything publicly or semi-publicly to hurt any of the GT users. I am friends with people who had fics there, and who posted there, and I would never want to hurt them, or anyone else who was an innocent victim of anything or anyone, and I know everyone else on FA's org team feels the same way.

If I have, I apologize for it. All these years, I've thought this was something that had nothing to do with me, or with FictionAlley and I really still feel that 99% of it didn't - we don't have any conclusive information to add to the discussion regarding Fermatojam or Pottersginny, according to the investigating that [livejournal.com profile] nostrademons did of our database.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-19 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edeainfj.livejournal.com
When so many people were hurt from the truth not being told? Yeah, it does.

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Date: 2006-06-19 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermorrine.livejournal.com
People were still hurting over something that happened three years ago from a stupid fake LJ?!

way to totally diminish her actions

Date: 2006-06-19 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunderpants.livejournal.com
Dude, I don't mean this as a personal insult, but that's the kind of attitude that usually discourages people from telling the truth normally. If the truth's that appalling and offensive, don't blame the listener, blame the person causing problems.

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Date: 2006-06-19 11:01 pm (UTC)
ext_230: a tiny green frog on a very red leaf (Default)
From: [identity profile] anatsuno.livejournal.com
I have seen you be fiercely loyal to some people you call friends over the years, which you get, and that's normal and good, credit for; you're seemingly annoyed now on behalf of friends to see some painful times recalled to the surface; therefore, I think you can understand that some other people with other loyalty networks can find things interesting and valid after all that time, and not dismiss it as "old and ridiculous". If it was your friends you wouldn't find it ridiculous, you would feel their pain somewhat, because that's what friends do.

No one gets to decide what hurts others and what doesn't. I won't claim i don't find it a little ott myself, but reading about it, it seems a LOT of people have been badly hurt by a series of unjust accusations - not "the one mocking fake LJ", but a compounded series of events - that can apparently now all be traced to one malicious person. It's certainly important for them to be validated now, of course it is. That's hardly surprising.

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Date: 2006-06-20 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imaginarycircus.livejournal.com
I don't buy that this is some great revelation of the TRUTH though. I think it is part grudge and part dog and pony show to amuse people, like celebrity tell-alls in magazines or on TV. I just can't believe this is some great fandom service to set things to rights. This a story to amuse and shock people. And maybe a way for people to get some stuff of their chests.

There is certainly truth in bad_penny's posts, but I am not sure it is the whole truth, (I don't think anyone knows the whole truth) the sources seem very biased.

Ms.Scribe did some bad things but she was certainly not the only one who did. There were two sides in that flame war. So either this is one sided grudge muck raking or a very poor biased stab at the truth.

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Date: 2006-06-20 01:27 am (UTC)
ext_230: a tiny green frog on a very red leaf (Default)
From: [identity profile] anatsuno.livejournal.com
I don't especially buy that it is a BIG NEW ALL TRUE SHINY REVEAL that is faultless, no. That's not what I meant and not what I said. I was arguing against arguments that it was only shit-stirring and as such, could do no good at all. I was arguing that dismissing pain expressed by other people is making no one look good. Not saying the whole bad_penny stuff was a panacea. And you won't catch me calling for mass defriending or boycottage either, so.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-20 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imaginarycircus.livejournal.com
No, I don't want to dismiss anyone's pain.

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Date: 2006-06-20 05:09 pm (UTC)
ext_230: a tiny green frog on a very red leaf (bandaid for your mood?)
From: [identity profile] anatsuno.livejournal.com
and I'm sorry for yours, the fact that I fall on the "truthcoming out is better than lies festering" side does not make me insensitive to it -I didn't mean to dismiss it either. :/

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Date: 2006-06-20 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imaginarycircus.livejournal.com
Right now this mess is actually the least of my problems. And I did not think for a moment that you were doing that. I've known you for a years even though I don't know you well. You've always been cool.

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Date: 2006-06-20 04:08 am (UTC)
ashavah: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ashavah
If it was your friends you wouldn't find it ridiculous, you would feel their pain somewhat, because that's what friends do.

Thank you.

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Date: 2006-06-20 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carissa-lynn.livejournal.com
I think the fact that you can say that means you don't really understand what happened.

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