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[heidi]

This is probably the most difficult post I've made here on LJ in a long time, if ever.

This morning, nostrademons emailed me and praetorianguard regarding some IP matches that he did using information posted on recent Charlotte Lennox posts on JournalFen and comments to those posts.

On JournalFen, el juno posted 68.82.43.3 as the address they have at JournalFen associated with Sporkify - as far as nostrademons, praetorianguard and I can tell, this is the first time that IP address has been publicly shared as a "sockpuppet" IP address. nostrademons ran it through FA's archives, and found that it did match the IP address used by MsScribe on FA in the winter and spring of 2004.

Back in March of 2004, when I was told that many GT'ers thought that Sporkify was an FA Mod, I did ask on the Yahoogroup we have for mod-organizational things whether anyone on said list was Sporkify, and MsScribe lied to me. She posted a reply and said that people thought it was someone on her flist, and then said, "Did they wank something else? *goes to look*"

I believed her, just as I believed all the other FA Mods who posted to that list that week and said they weren't Sporkify - and of course, everyone but MsScribe answered truthfully. But I believed her, and praetorianguard believed her, and so did everyone else. After that, there was one more wank posted by Sporkify on F_W - this one actually involved wanking about FA and some of its mods - and at almost the same time, MsScribe asked if she could resign from FA. I, of course, said yes, and she stopped modding on FA. She was on-staff from early June, 2003 (when I was on leave having my son Jon, then working on Nimbus) until late March, 2004, and in that time-frame was on leave for most of November and December.

Now, I know people are going to say that we should've figured this out before, but we had no information about Sporkify's IP address, and we had no expectation that JF would ever release it, because their ToU's Privacy Policy states, "Journalfen will never release your personal
information, to anyone, except as may be required by law, or in the course of any possible legal proceedings.... Journalfen will never sell, or otherwise make available, information that is not required for the normal display of your journal."

Back in the spring of 2003, praetorianguard and owlman tried to make it clear that FA mods were not acting for FA when they weren't posting on the site, and that only the two of them and I were authorized to act on behalf of FA off-site. Therefore, unless someone complained about MsScribe as an FA moderator or she violated the FA ToU in some way, none of this involved FA. At that time, nobody directly contacted me about it, afaik.

Personally, I am sorry anyone was hurt by anything that has happened in fandom over the last six years that I've been a part of it. I feel extremely duped and upset about this whole situation. That being said, I am all written-out at this point, and so I'm going to parrot Irina. It's so hard to understand how someone who has been so kind to me, and whom I've seen be kind to others, could also do this - could be untruthful directly to me.

I don't think I've ever posted anything publicly or semi-publicly to hurt any of the GT users. I am friends with people who had fics there, and who posted there, and I would never want to hurt them, or anyone else who was an innocent victim of anything or anyone, and I know everyone else on FA's org team feels the same way.

If I have, I apologize for it. All these years, I've thought this was something that had nothing to do with me, or with FictionAlley and I really still feel that 99% of it didn't - we don't have any conclusive information to add to the discussion regarding Fermatojam or Pottersginny, according to the investigating that nostrademons did of our database.

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[cleverthylacine]

Journalfen is a wank site. It is my own experience that much of what they say about people there, on any wank comm (and don't EVEN try to tell me Bad Penny isn't one--look at its userinfo and its first post) is deliberate misrepresentation of the people they happen not to like there. I can't tell you the number of times that people have friended me after coming to my journal during one of the floods of trolls they sent there and told me, essentially, "They said you said X, and meant Y, but now that I have read what you actually said, it's clear to me that you said A, and you meant A."

They are trying to make themselves out to be the bringers of justice, but in fact, while Dionne and nobody BUT Dionne is responsible for her actions, their bread-and-circuses mentality fed her all the attention she could ever want and facilitated her trolling and nastiness. FW toasted marshmallows over the flaming corpse of GT. They may have forgot it, but I have not.

[mcity.livejournal.com]

Journalfen is a wank site.

JournalFen is an alternative to LJ, largely, but not entirely, concerned with wank.

t is my own experience that much of what they say about people there, on any wank comm (and don't EVEN try to tell me Bad Penny isn't one--look at its userinfo and its first post) is deliberate misrepresentation of the people they happen not to like there.

Are you saying people may be demonstrating bias? Lordy.

I can't tell you the number of times that people have friended me after coming to my journal during one of the floods of trolls they sent there and told me, essentially, "They said you said X, and meant Y, but now that I have read what you actually said, it's clear to me that you said A, and you meant A."

Therefore, they were lying. Got it.

They are trying to make themselves out to be the bringers of justice,

No, the bringers of sarcasm and (allegedly)humor. They have stated, several times, that they are not the Internet Police.

but in fact, while Dionne and nobody BUT Dionne is responsible for her actions, their bread-and-circuses mentality fed her all the attention she could ever want and facilitated her trolling and nastiness.

By existing. Got it.

So she's responsible for her actions, but they're responsible for her fame, which is worse than what she did.

FW toasted marshmallows over the flaming corpse of GT. They may have forgot it, but I have not.

Backing away now.

[cleverthylacine]

You're doing the exact thing I'm talking about. I NEVER said that giving Dionne a bully pulpit was worse than being a bully. I never said that publicising what she did was worse than doing it.

I DID NOT SAY THAT.

You're saying that. So own it and don't put that into MY mouth.

I'm saying that FW and JF play a really big role in rewarding craziness, because they do.

[mcity.livejournal.com]

You're saying that. So own it and don't put that into MY mouth.

Or, y'know, simply misinterpreting what you said/implied. Which is, in fact, what happened.

I'm saying that FW and JF play a really big role in rewarding craziness, because they do.

Rewarding it by mocking it. Got it.

[cleverthylacine]

There are a lot of people who like negative attention. As long as you're mocking them, arguing with them, paying attention to them, they're going to just keep going and going.

I have a streak of this myself (and I'm sure that some asshole will mock me for admitting it, but so there) and there're a lot of people who feel they're judged by the quality of the enemies they make.

If everything in the JF account is for real, though, that would make Dionne pretty much the exemplar of this personality trait. As long as you're talking about her, a person who is capable of this much deception just to stir things up will be happy, no matter what you say.

Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not true.

[mcity.livejournal.com]

Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not true.

And, by converse, it doesn't mean it is true.

Everything MsScribe did seems to have been aimed at getting sympathy and admiration. Not merely "attention". She wants people to like her.

[cleverthylacine]

That's one interpretation, but if everything Charlotte Lennox says is true, she spent a lot of time stirring up fights between people as well as attacking herself. In other words, she spun people up like tops and sent them crashing into each other. That to me seems like a desire for control and attention of any kind.

[mcity.livejournal.com]

She made socks to attack herself, to garner sympathy, and did everything she could to occupy the same mindspace as BNFs. If this was merely about "attention", she could've just trolled, or something.