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Jun. 19th, 2006 05:11 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
heidiThis is probably the most difficult post I've made here on LJ in a long time, if ever.
This morning,![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
nostrademons emailed me and praetorianguard regarding some IP matches that he did using information posted on recent Charlotte Lennox posts on JournalFen and comments to those posts.
On JournalFen, el juno posted 68.82.43.3 as the address they have at JournalFen associated with Sporkify - as far asnostrademons, praetorianguard and I can tell, this is the first time that IP address has been publicly shared as a "sockpuppet" IP address. nostrademons ran it through FA's archives, and found that it did match the IP address used by MsScribe on FA in the winter and spring of 2004.
Back in March of 2004, when I was told that many GT'ers thought that Sporkify was an FA Mod, I did ask on the Yahoogroup we have for mod-organizational things whether anyone on said list was Sporkify, and MsScribe lied to me. She posted a reply and said that people thought it was someone on her flist, and then said, "Did they wank something else? *goes to look*"
I believed her, just as I believed all the other FA Mods who posted to that list that week and said they weren't Sporkify - and of course, everyone but MsScribe answered truthfully. But I believed her, andpraetorianguard believed her, and so did everyone else. After that, there was one more wank posted by Sporkify on F_W - this one actually involved wanking about FA and some of its mods - and at almost the same time, MsScribe asked if she could resign from FA. I, of course, said yes, and she stopped modding on FA. She was on-staff from early June, 2003 (when I was on leave having my son Jon, then working on Nimbus) until late March, 2004, and in that time-frame was on leave for most of November and December.
Now, I know people are going to say that we should've figured this out before, but we had no information about Sporkify's IP address, and we had no expectation that JF would ever release it, because their ToU's Privacy Policy states, "Journalfen will never release your personal
information, to anyone, except as may be required by law, or in the course of any possible legal proceedings.... Journalfen will never sell, or otherwise make available, information that is not required for the normal display of your journal."
Back in the spring of 2003,praetorianguard and owlman tried to make it clear that FA mods were not acting for FA when they weren't posting on the site, and that only the two of them and I were authorized to act on behalf of FA off-site. Therefore, unless someone complained about MsScribe as an FA moderator or she violated the FA ToU in some way, none of this involved FA. At that time, nobody directly contacted me about it, afaik.
Personally, I am sorry anyone was hurt by anything that has happened in fandom over the last six years that I've been a part of it. I feel extremely duped and upset about this whole situation. That being said, I am all written-out at this point, and so I'm going to parrot Irina. It's so hard to understand how someone who has been so kind to me, and whom I've seen be kind to others, could also do this - could be untruthful directly to me.
I don't think I've ever posted anything publicly or semi-publicly to hurt any of the GT users. I am friends with people who had fics there, and who posted there, and I would never want to hurt them, or anyone else who was an innocent victim of anything or anyone, and I know everyone else on FA's org team feels the same way.
If I have, I apologize for it. All these years, I've thought this was something that had nothing to do with me, or with FictionAlley and I really still feel that 99% of it didn't - we don't have any conclusive information to add to the discussion regarding Fermatojam or Pottersginny, according to the investigating thatnostrademons did of our database.
This morning,
nostrademons emailed me and praetorianguard regarding some IP matches that he did using information posted on recent Charlotte Lennox posts on JournalFen and comments to those posts.On JournalFen, el juno posted 68.82.43.3 as the address they have at JournalFen associated with Sporkify - as far as
nostrademons, praetorianguard and I can tell, this is the first time that IP address has been publicly shared as a "sockpuppet" IP address. nostrademons ran it through FA's archives, and found that it did match the IP address used by MsScribe on FA in the winter and spring of 2004.Back in March of 2004, when I was told that many GT'ers thought that Sporkify was an FA Mod, I did ask on the Yahoogroup we have for mod-organizational things whether anyone on said list was Sporkify, and MsScribe lied to me. She posted a reply and said that people thought it was someone on her flist, and then said, "Did they wank something else? *goes to look*"
I believed her, just as I believed all the other FA Mods who posted to that list that week and said they weren't Sporkify - and of course, everyone but MsScribe answered truthfully. But I believed her, and
praetorianguard believed her, and so did everyone else. After that, there was one more wank posted by Sporkify on F_W - this one actually involved wanking about FA and some of its mods - and at almost the same time, MsScribe asked if she could resign from FA. I, of course, said yes, and she stopped modding on FA. She was on-staff from early June, 2003 (when I was on leave having my son Jon, then working on Nimbus) until late March, 2004, and in that time-frame was on leave for most of November and December.Now, I know people are going to say that we should've figured this out before, but we had no information about Sporkify's IP address, and we had no expectation that JF would ever release it, because their ToU's Privacy Policy states, "Journalfen will never release your personal
information, to anyone, except as may be required by law, or in the course of any possible legal proceedings.... Journalfen will never sell, or otherwise make available, information that is not required for the normal display of your journal."
Back in the spring of 2003,
praetorianguard and owlman tried to make it clear that FA mods were not acting for FA when they weren't posting on the site, and that only the two of them and I were authorized to act on behalf of FA off-site. Therefore, unless someone complained about MsScribe as an FA moderator or she violated the FA ToU in some way, none of this involved FA. At that time, nobody directly contacted me about it, afaik. Personally, I am sorry anyone was hurt by anything that has happened in fandom over the last six years that I've been a part of it. I feel extremely duped and upset about this whole situation. That being said, I am all written-out at this point, and so I'm going to parrot Irina. It's so hard to understand how someone who has been so kind to me, and whom I've seen be kind to others, could also do this - could be untruthful directly to me.
I don't think I've ever posted anything publicly or semi-publicly to hurt any of the GT users. I am friends with people who had fics there, and who posted there, and I would never want to hurt them, or anyone else who was an innocent victim of anything or anyone, and I know everyone else on FA's org team feels the same way.
If I have, I apologize for it. All these years, I've thought this was something that had nothing to do with me, or with FictionAlley and I really still feel that 99% of it didn't - we don't have any conclusive information to add to the discussion regarding Fermatojam or Pottersginny, according to the investigating that
nostrademons did of our database.
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Date: 2006-06-22 03:02 am (UTC)You preferred to believe racist, homophobic, prejudiced, and classist vitriol was coming from GT (despite the fact that there was no evidence of this at all)
Where did I say I believed it was coming from GT as a site, like as an official thing? A site is not responsible for everything its users say or do!
and that GT and Angua forged evidence that suggested MsScribe was stalking herself.
*I* never said the evidence was forged. I said in March of 04 that it was inconclusive. And I was reminded when reading an old thread today that there were posts by Clara that she hacked into Fermatojam's account on GT and that explained the identicality. Given
Angua deserves a real apology.
I've just emailed her to talk about this so I can understand better why she thought I thought what she told me included forged information.
GT admins – not just users – deserve an apology
I apologized to them already for anything they suffered from anything D did. I have nothing else to apologize to them for.
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Date: 2006-06-22 09:23 pm (UTC)I am now convinced that FA is only interested in what is legally right. That's fine, except that you, an admin of FA, wished to hold other sites up to standards that yout site does not feel obligated uphold. To wit, you have publicly stated that you are angry at the admins of a website for banning a stupid word and banning someone they didn't like, who they believed - rightly - hated their ship, and for telling people they didn’t have the whole truth and not to talk about the Cassie incident on GT.
Those are pretty weak – nay, petty – reasons to condone the kind of vitriol that was aimed at GT from the FA side of the fandom.
And I am PUBLICLY angry at FA for harboring this MsScribe, a parasite on the fandom and because it has at least one admin (not, I point out, said admin’s spouse) who refuses to acknowledge her complicity through the use of spin, double talk, misleading statements, straw men, backpedaling, and ridiculous excuses. Heidi, what we are asking for is recognition for your part in this and an apology for it, not self victimization. We are not asking you to fall on your own sword, here. Just apologize.
“The truth is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with great caution.” (JKR, PS, Ch 17). Heidi, stop spinning the truth. Your overture to Paula – when she read that she literally screamed. I know this, because someone I was in YM with was on the phone with her when you published that statement. This turns out to be a single statement in which you told her you saw Paul McCartney in a movie or show once when you guys were at a conference together.
I’m not going to argue with you point by point any longer, because are using this as a tactic to avoid the primary issues.
Let me paraphrase JKR. My homage, if you will.
It is my belief that we have faced dark and difficult times. Some of you in this fandom have already suffered directly at the hands of MsScribe. ….. Remember all the people she hurt, including her friends. Remember Christina and her family. Remember, if the time should come when you have to make a choice between what is right and what is easy, remember what happens to people who were good, and kind, and brave – though not perfect – just because they strayed across the path of those who aspired to be Big Name Fans and their little circle of “friends.” - Chapter 37, GF.
You are blinded by the love of your “position” in the fandom. … If your determination to shut your eyes will carry you as far as this, Heidi, we have reached a parting of the ways. You must act as you see fit. And I -- I shall act as I see fit. – Chapter 36, GF
This is my last post to you, Heidi. I may continue to post about this on my own Lj, but I’m away on Tuesday for five weeks in the mountains, so I don’t intend to waste my holidays talking to you about the forest when all you can see are the trees.