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He's nobody, and she didn't even realise what she'd done until people started theorizing. Evans, she says on her site, is a common name, and she just picked it because he was a nobody-character, like Madam Marsh, who needed to be named.

But at least she said that many of the theories people promulgated were highly plausible. I guess she just wasn't willing to rewrite her plot to incorporate any? ;)

Want to read her answer yourself? Follow these instructions:

Click the F.A.Q (the paper clips), then click "about the books" (envelope at the right), then at a note half hidden to the left of the FAQ list, then on "F.A.Q. poll".

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Date: 2004-07-06 08:48 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
A) Evans is a common name.
B) For god's sake GET A LIFE.

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Date: 2004-07-06 09:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mincot.livejournal.com
Hear, hear. Yeah, the speculation was fun, but sheesh. First off, re-writing your story to take fandom into account opens up a can of legal issues that I suspect Rowling really doesn't want to get into. Secondly, why should she make a change? I don't see it as evidence of sloppiness--Evans is a common name! Only in fiction do unrelated characters never share surnames. Thinking that she should accommodate us is arrogant, to say the least. So his name doesn't mean anything? Enh.

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Date: 2004-07-06 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harlequincy.livejournal.com
I don't think this was really an issue of accomodating fandom... I mean, it's not really important that she let *us* down by confusing us, or whatever you might be thinking. I think it was just an issue of sloppiness, really, just as [livejournal.com profile] lizardlaugh said before.

I don't personally care all that she was sloppy, but I can understand those who do. In general JKR is incredibly unsloppy. Everything happens for a reason in her books, and everything is connected, like a giant puzzle. For example, Sirius gave Hagrid his flying motorcycle in PS/SS before we even knew who he was, and then VOILA! He showed up in PoA.

Along the same logic, one might assume that Mark Evans would be important in later books. I mean, we haven't really heard much about Lily Evans, but we know she's important, because let's face it, she is the reason Harry is alive. Yet we've only heard about James's friends and James's life so far. No Lily. Mark Evans's name stood out because hey, we haven't heard much about the Evans clan yet, and maybe he's the window into that hazey bit of the story.

It just seemed very important that his last name was Evans... there are many other common names, but JKR chose Evans, Lily's last name. And now she's saying that she just didn't *notice*? It's just... very odd for that kind of thing to be happening with JKR... *shrug*

Jesus, this turned out to be really long. I'm really sorry about that. :">

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Date: 2004-07-06 11:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizardlaugh.livejournal.com
It has nothing to do with the fandom. It has to do with writing a well crafted mystery.

A huge part of the appeal of the Harry Potter series is that it is a mystery. JKR has said herself, if you are paying attention, you can figure it all out. That's the whole reason I personally got involved in the fandom in the first palce. Wasn't fic. It was the mystery, the puzzle. The assumption that things could indeed be figured out.

If things really are completely random, you can't solve the puzzle. The pieces don't fit. Little things like dates, phases of the moon and the number of students at Hogwarts don't bother me as they aren't really important in terms of the overall mystery. Something like this, something that looks like a clue, smells like a clue, but isn't even a Red Herring? Makes me think she's making it up at she goes along. Fine for a neat little fantasy story, not so fine for an epic mystery, which Harry Potter is supposed to be.

*pokes* Play nice, buster

Date: 2004-07-06 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harlequincy.livejournal.com
"A) Evans is a common name."

I think the point is that... so are many other names. She couldn't have chosen a different common name? Like say, Smith? Burns? Johnson? Hill? Graham? Miller? Sawyer? The list goes freakin' on? It's just very odd that she chose Evans for this "random boy" when Evans is the name of a very significant character.

"B) For god's sake GET A LIFE.

Can you be nicer please? No one is trying to piss you off, I promise. It would be nice if you did everyone else the same courtesy.

Re: *pokes* Play nice, buster

Date: 2004-07-06 09:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
Smith? Burns? Johnson? Hill? Graham? Miller? Sawyer?

But had she chosen Smith, everyone would've wondered if he was related to Zacharias.

Re: *pokes* Play nice, buster

Date: 2004-07-06 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harlequincy.livejournal.com
Well yes, exactly the point. I'm just wondering how she didn't notice her own characters' names... *shrug* I dunno, I don't think it really matters that much... all I'm sayin' is that it's pretty strange that she *did* choose Evans, and I can understand those who would be annoyed by her screw-up.

Re: *pokes* Play nice, buster

Date: 2004-07-06 11:24 am (UTC)
ext_8571: (whatever)
From: [identity profile] slippery-fish.livejournal.com
Well, that's the thing about common names, isn't it? Important people and nobodies run around with the same name. It happens in real life, why shouldn't it happen fiction?

But it's kind of weird she didn't notice. Maybe she mocks her fans a bit or maybe she doesn't care about Lily as much as the fans. Yes, Lily is important but probably only as Harry's mother and not as a person. *shrugs* Well, maybe she simply doesn't care about names...

Re: *pokes* Play nice, buster

Date: 2004-07-06 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harlequincy.livejournal.com
"Well, that's the thing about common names, isn't it? Important people and nobodies run around with the same name. It happens in real life, why shouldn't it happen fiction?"

That's actually a really good point. The only thing I'd say is that in a children's story where everything else works like clockwork, and everything is very planned out... it just seems out of place to be adding such a dimension of realism, you know?

"Yes, Lily is important but probably only as Harry's mother and not as a person."

I've also thought about that. I've begun to wonder whether Lily's importance has been played up in my mind due to things I've read around fandom. But then I think, "Well, she *is* the reason Harry is alive, and Voldemort *did* say she didn't have to die, right?" So now I'm just boggling over whether she really is important or not. Because if she really were as important as I previously thought her to be, then it seems JKR really really should've paid a lot of attention to her. But now I am just confused. *wibbles*

Re: *pokes* Play nice, buster

Date: 2004-07-07 11:20 am (UTC)
ext_8571: (Default)
From: [identity profile] slippery-fish.livejournal.com
That's actually a really good point. The only thing I'd say is that in a children's story where everything else works like clockwork, and everything is very planned out... it just seems out of place to be adding such a dimension of realism, you know?

If she hadn't said she didn't notice I would say it could be a try to break out of this plan. That it maybe became too constructed for her. But judging from her comment...*shrugs* I really don't know. I guess I just don't mind that she made that mistake because the story gets a bit realer with it.

I've also thought about that. I've begun to wonder whether Lily's importance has been played up in my mind due to things I've read around fandom. But then I think, "Well, she *is* the reason Harry is alive, and Voldemort *did* say she didn't have to die, right?" So now I'm just boggling over whether she really is important or not. Because if she really were as important as I previously thought her to be, then it seems JKR really really should've paid a lot of attention to her. But now I am just confused. *wibbles*

Aren't we all? *g* If she is only important because she saved Harry then she is a very important character in the book, but not because of herself. In that case the name is probably not important. But if she did something before Harry that is important and that we simply don't know about yet it gets more complicated. Rowling should have remembered her in that case...Oh well,maybe we learn more about Lily in the next book...

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Date: 2004-07-06 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
You know, I am usually pleased to allow anonymice to post in my LJ, but really, what's the point of a post like this, other than to be argumentative, and without actually posting a real argument.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-07-06 10:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizardlaugh.livejournal.com
A) Evans is the name of Harry's mother, please.
B) Get some gonads, anonymouse.

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