But it won't always hurt this bad.
- song #2, Grace of My Heart
It's a year tonight - not to the date, but to the day, this third Friday in June - that so many hundreds and thousands of us waited in lines and grasped and devoured our copies of OotP. Fueled by caffine and sugar and companionship - whether in the same room, over the phone or oer the internet - we made it through those hundreds of pages.
And I don't know about you, but I was devestated. I'd been listening to the Grace of My Heart soundtrack on the way home and when I stopped short, while A Boat on the Sea was playing, my copy fell onto the floor and opened to something in the 820s, and I still remember what I saw on the lefthand page. That Harry hadn't spoken to Hermione and Ron much "since Sirius died."
And here's how the song goes:
I can't songfic it; I've tried. I know some of the lines are Remus. Some are Harry. Some are Sirius. Some are two, or all three of them. And the rest of the soundtrack is no different. Every song, by this point, gives me the vaguest of plot bunnies but when I try to pin them down, well, it's like trying to catch smoke with your bare hands.
I thought at a year, I'd hate it less, that ending, but every time I see PoA, the stab into my heart is still there.
If I had one question of Cuaron and Kloves, it would be, how much did you change the last scene with Harry and Sirius, and what was it like, originally. Because the way it is now is painful with its foreshadowing - a foreshadowing *all* of us know. And hell, one year on, I still can't bring myself to reread those pages. I wonder if I'll eer be able to. Maybe after Book 6?
- song #2, Grace of My Heart
It's a year tonight - not to the date, but to the day, this third Friday in June - that so many hundreds and thousands of us waited in lines and grasped and devoured our copies of OotP. Fueled by caffine and sugar and companionship - whether in the same room, over the phone or oer the internet - we made it through those hundreds of pages.
And I don't know about you, but I was devestated. I'd been listening to the Grace of My Heart soundtrack on the way home and when I stopped short, while A Boat on the Sea was playing, my copy fell onto the floor and opened to something in the 820s, and I still remember what I saw on the lefthand page. That Harry hadn't spoken to Hermione and Ron much "since Sirius died."
And here's how the song goes:
There's a lamp that won't light in my poetry room and children out playing in a big full moon. My man's barricaded there in his room. He'll be coming out soon.
I remember when I met him, he blew in like the wind. No-one was more beautiful or dangerous than him. He blew through my soul with a tangerine wind. He's coming out soon.
Luxury looms on a fogbound day. I am not alone now; I am not afraid. I'm clean and I'm free - it's all stripped away. All debts are paid.
I wonder if he ever looks down at the sea, thinks about the time that he spent with me. I know everything's exactly how it has to be. All's right with this world.
I never knew I was built so strong. My heart is a boat on the sea. I never thought I was built for hurricaines. My heart is a boat on the sea, through the cold and the dark, with the grace of my heart.
I can't songfic it; I've tried. I know some of the lines are Remus. Some are Harry. Some are Sirius. Some are two, or all three of them. And the rest of the soundtrack is no different. Every song, by this point, gives me the vaguest of plot bunnies but when I try to pin them down, well, it's like trying to catch smoke with your bare hands.
I thought at a year, I'd hate it less, that ending, but every time I see PoA, the stab into my heart is still there.
If I had one question of Cuaron and Kloves, it would be, how much did you change the last scene with Harry and Sirius, and what was it like, originally. Because the way it is now is painful with its foreshadowing - a foreshadowing *all* of us know. And hell, one year on, I still can't bring myself to reread those pages. I wonder if I'll eer be able to. Maybe after Book 6?
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Date: 2004-06-18 10:03 am (UTC)*hugs tightly*
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Date: 2004-06-18 10:36 am (UTC)And the bits with Sirius and Harry in the film......you're making me want to go and see it a third time !!
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Date: 2004-06-18 10:57 am (UTC)I'm sorry you had to find out the ending the way you did. I said to myself, "Damn! I thought I had it bad!" Nope. You beat me.
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Date: 2004-06-18 11:02 am (UTC)Hey weren't all the south florida people gonna get together and see PoA again? I would love to.
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Date: 2004-06-18 05:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2004-06-18 11:18 am (UTC)But, to make you feel better, I'll give you a worse spoiler story. I was having coffee at a good friend's house the day after I arrived back from Nimbus. I knew she was only about halfway through OOP, so I carefully checked the entire program book out for spoilers before I handed it to her. She thoroughly enjoyed paging through the program, asking a lot of good questions, and I was just getting ready to go when she reached to hand me the closed program and froze. There - on the back cover, in tiny print - were the words "IMO Sirius Black." I immediately started to dither and she said, in a choked voice, "Shut up. Just. Shut up. I need to mourn for a minute." She put her head on her arms at the table and just stayed there for a few seconds while I listened to the thundering of blood in my ears. Then she looked up at me with tears in her eyes and said in an over-bright voice, "So...more coffee?" Ooooohhh! - bad, bad flashback.
She still loves me, by the way - but will never get over that. To this day, she'll relive it for anyone who'll listen.
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Date: 2004-06-18 11:19 am (UTC)Yeah, it made me really sad later when I thought about Harry's words in the movie. :(
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Date: 2004-06-18 11:27 am (UTC)i wonder how they did change that last scene, cos man. every time, i feel like my eyes are tearing up a bit.
*sniff*
definitely dont want to see movie 5 at the moment. denial is good.
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Date: 2004-06-18 12:51 pm (UTC)I haven't been able to pick it up again, either.
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Date: 2004-06-18 12:57 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-18 01:01 pm (UTC)I also haven't written any fanfic since, as it completely destroyed my muse, on the plus side however I've recently finished the first draft of an original novel and I'm planning the sequel now. The good thing is that I'm the only person who gets to decide the fate of my characters.
But Sirius's death still hurts.
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Date: 2004-06-18 01:32 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-18 03:12 pm (UTC)Oh, I love that.
The Werewolf Registry spoiled me accidentally -- I shouldn't have gone there -- but I realised later I needed that cushion of warning. I'd been so sure Sirius wasn't going to be the one because of all his untied-off threads. He had to catch Peter, he had to be Harry's family. He had to have a life. Hagrid... well, Hagrid had been happy and successful, he was in a good position (and being a Gryffindor, well-suited) to sacrifice himself for the cause. I was prepared for that....
The thing is, I don't believe he's DEAD dead. It's like the lines from Miracle Max in The Princess Bride, y'know? This is NOT real life, it has a structure and a plan and symbolism and a very sneaky writer.
I also had the IMMENSE comfort of Dogstar Academy, where Sirius is very much alive (returned from the dead, to be specific -- long story) and extremely vital. So, he was gone... yet not gone.
I actually can re-read OoP, because of the above, and mostly because I'm trying to write an AUish PoV fanfic sequel set during it; but I find myself still getting wretched wanting PoA's and GoF's and especially OoP's Sirius to be happy. I want to fix things for him (and slap Molly Weasley really really hard).
I think I shall wear black on Monday. He's coming out soon. I believe this. His story's not done.
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Date: 2004-06-18 05:41 pm (UTC)And like you had with Dogstar, I had with Nocturne Alley - and I also reread A Sirius Affair that weekend, thinking about the Happily Ever After I wish he'd had.
This can't be the end of his story.
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Date: 2004-06-18 04:52 pm (UTC)I found outthroug ha message that had nt spoiler warnings in the body. hadn't even started the hogwarts part of the book.
I've never heard of those songs but this-one you quoted
made me cry. Ouch. I hate the book, the whole of it. The
thing depressed me and the cozy uplifting bits were far to
short. And too many times afterwords I heard" that's just like
life itself."
I miss that man as if he wasn't fictional at all. And the whole
last section of POA till he flew away with buckbeak, I just
choked up.
Thanks for this post. It stopped me feeling stupid for still
sometimes crying over/missing someone who doesn't even
exist in real life.
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Date: 2004-06-18 05:38 pm (UTC)Now, I note that the songs that touch me, the passages that break my heart - they don't impact everyone that way. But everyone ought to have some book or movie or song or poem or something that just gets them in the heart, no matter how fictional it is.
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Date: 2004-06-18 05:32 pm (UTC)I found watching PoA much more moving in light of OotP, and I too would like to know how much Cuaron worked foreshawdowing (even thematically)into it.
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Date: 2004-06-18 05:49 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-18 05:50 pm (UTC)I think I shall take
I too haven't re-read OotP (although I read it so fast the first time around that I know I missed things) - it's altogether too painful a book. Not just because of Sirius, but the sheer emotional tension running nonstop. It's rather draining.
*hugs her Sirius, who looks rather bewildered and wants to know if there'll be booze at his deathday party*
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Date: 2004-06-18 05:56 pm (UTC)Interestingly, I was also spoiled, but it was voluntary. I asked a friend of mine who had already finished, while I was still closer to the beginning and could not properly concentrate on the book for fear of who was going to die. He was very surprised, as I am spoilerphobic. I still don't regret that decision, because I don't think I would have handled it well had it been a shock. Hearing it in that way, there was just that sinking despair in my gut that I had anyway, you know? Though I wonder if I really needed to be spoiled; almost right after my friend told me, I read Sirius's "there are things worth dying for!" line, which is so blatant it almost can't be called foreshadowing.
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Date: 2004-06-18 06:35 pm (UTC)The first time I read OotP, when I reached the end I was filled with so many emotions I could not identify them all. The initial emotion was anger- how dare JKR do that? No warning at all! Killing off one of the most beloved characters like that, the nerve!
The second was sympathy for Harry. I lost my father just a little over two years ago, when I was thirteen. His death, not at all unlike Sirius' death, was very sudden. He got up for work one day and never came home, and oh, I felt every emotion that Harry felt. The anger, the terrible sadness and loneliness, and most of all the wish to not be human so I didn't have to feel anymore.
I feel somewhat dumb saying this, but I 'grieved' the loss of a fictional character for the first time ever while reading OotP. It never has gotten any easier to read that scene in Book 5, and I don't suspect it will.
I just watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer the other day, the episode where everyone has to deal with Joyce's death, and this quote by Anya kind of reminded me of the general reaction to Sirius' death: I don't understand how this all happens. How we go through this. I mean, I knew her, and then there's just a body, and I don't understand why she just can't get back in it and not be dead anymore. It's stupid. It's mortal and stupid. And, and Xander's crying and not talking, and, and I was having fruit punch, and I thought, well, Joyce will never have any more fruit punch ever, and she'll never have eggs, or yawn or brush her hair, not ever, and no one will explain to me why.
So...yes. Will stop spamming you now. :)
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Date: 2004-06-18 06:55 pm (UTC)but i cant find the button on this page!
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Date: 2004-06-19 05:53 am (UTC)But for the next, oh, what will it be, five years at least before book 7 comes out? Perhaps 2010? I won't be able to read it at all.
(My lord, we need to make sure she has a complete security detail at all times, don't we?)
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Date: 2004-06-19 06:48 am (UTC)I read the book in a few hours and had to go to a party immediately after where there were people who expected me to be good company for the party, and, worse, people who hadn't read the book and were excited about reading it Real Soon Now and to whom I owed it not to spoil anything for them. Which meant I had to close the book, turn off every emotion, and go to the party like nothing had happened--not a tear, not a word. If I'd started I wouldn't have been able to stop. Having to do that is up there with the most difficult experiences of my life. There was not one person there to whom I could speak about what I was going through.
I could not let the breakdown come until the next day, and it was bad.
I knew I wouldn't be able to read the book again, so I had to buy the book on CD to be able to experience it again. It was as if, if I was passively listening, instead of actively reading, I would be able to allow it, knowing how badly it would hurt again.
I visit a Barnes and Noble routinely, and every, every damn time I walk through the store I know I'm going to walk by the "Harry Potter" section, and I do, and I see those blue-bound volumes and it just wells up and my vision blurs and I touch one of the books and blink for a bit.
I just can't believe that JKR could do that. Sirius is meant to be Harry's happy ending, you know? That's his family. That was what he was going to get at the end, for defeating Voldemort.
I need there to be a purpose for his death beyond "teaching the reader that death is awful and sudden and unfair."
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Date: 2004-06-19 11:05 am (UTC)I read the book only once as well and can't re-read it again for the same reason. After everythign JKR pulled us through there is still fan fiction.
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Date: 2004-06-19 11:16 am (UTC)On the a bit more funny note, I was reading OotP in a caffee, where this very amusing episode happened to me:
I'm just in the middle of chapter 14, when I hear a shy: "psst, excuse me?"
I look up and see a teenage couple. It was the girl, who was turned in my direction: "Excuse me, but how far are you now?"
"Chapte fourteen."
"Ah, well I'm not so far yet."
I smiled back at her and then turned to the book again.
Ten minutes later I made: "psst, excuse me..."
The couple looked up from their caffe au lait.
"Harry," I told them, "just got his first kiss."
Now even the boy got very interessted: "And who was it?"
"Cho Chang."
The boy slammed his fist into the table: "And I hoped, it would be Hermione!"
The girl: "I hoped for Ginny."
And I thought: and *I* wished it would be Snape.