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heinous_bitca, as edited by smilie117. But I think I need to ask Sabs to animate it and add in a second panel that basically says, "but not at writing dialogue..."
Now, for SW Ep. III
Am I the only one who saw the Milennium Falcon in begining, in the first scene where multiple vehicles are docking? Sorta to the righthand side, iirc?
Makinmg the Death Star - it takes 18 years? Wouldn't it have made a smidge more sense if they'd been looking at the plans for it, instead, and, like, approving them or killing the first architect because of some bonehead security flaw, or something?
Along those lines, there's a few other places where a bit more exposition would've worked better and caused the film to make so much more sense, most notably if Palpatine had said to Anakin "You are responsible for Windu's death and it was your anger and desperation that caused it to happen; the Jedi will know this and you can now never go back to them." Otherwise, it seems like within a three hour time frame, he goes from "I think I'll say I'll go along with this Palpatine thing until I learn how to save Padme and then I can get out because I have the power and I won't let him suck me into a vortext of evil" to "Hey! Evil! Fun! I can do that"
Nonetheless, I loved the "rule the galaxy together" bit. Anakin's just looking for lurve, isn't he? That being said, there was one moment which was just so Oedipal as to be disturbing, but now I can't remember for the life of me what, exactly, it was. Anyone?
Beru & owen - shouldn't they have aged a bit more b/c of sun or something? They look too old in IV to have looked this young now.
When Padme said she wanted to return to Naboo and spend time planning a nursery, the thought that went through my mind was, "Jewish women don't do that!" Really - the standard is to not set up the nursery before the baby is born - it's a very ingrained paranoia.
Along the "more exposition, please" lines, does anyone who read the book know if there was any about Anakin having some ingrained power over death so as to not die from the fire caused by the lava?
Is code 65g (or whatever it exactly was) code for "kill all jedi but anakin"? If anakin hadn't turned would the code have been 629 or something? And did they all get some coded image of what Anakin looked like, so they'd know not to kill him?
Why doesn't chewie ever tell Han he's wrong re Kenobi being the last Jedi? I mean, he fought beside Yoda and helped him escape. And does Chewie agree with Han that it's a silly old religion?
Relatedly, does yoda give a list to Kenobi of People Who Know Me And May Help, and that's why the two of them link up in the Cantina?
Doesn't anyone notice that the organas suddenly have a baby? Or do they tell some story like the Sally Field characetr in soapdish who gets pregnant by Kevin Klein (hey! life as a house connection!) but to hide the baby, she invents a sister who died in a car crash and has the child raised the Sally character's mother?
Overall, I liked the resonances with the original trilogy, especially the subtle bits like the tiny scuttling-on-the-floor droids, and I don't have any gripes with continuity in terms of Threepio and R2, mostly because Vader never sees R2 in the original trilogy, and the only time he's in the same room as Threepio is when he's strapped to Chewbaca's back, and I'm not sure he really thinks much on whether it's the same droid or not. The continuity issue with Leia remembering her mother irked me a little, but as I've seen posited elsewhere, maybe Bail's wife died and that's who Leia was refering to, and said woman was sad a lot because Bail brought this baby home but forgot to pick up things like diapers on the way?
Also, Padme? Not pregnant enough-looking to be term with twins, and the twins definitely looked term to me, and given that I saw a full-term baby placed on my belly three seconds out of my uterus about five weeks ago, I think I can be trusted to give an expert opinion in such matters.
I did like how Bail gave his daughter his old and safe and large space cruiser, and not the cute, red, sporty thing. SO much more parental!
I've seen a few other people give their History of Going to SW Movies, so here's mine:
I saw SW about a week or so after it came out, with my dad (not sure if my mom was there), my little sister, my dad's best friend Bart, and Bart's two kids, who were friends with me and my sister. Bart had brought McDonalds from the place across the street into the theater, so we had burgers & fries as we watched. And we didn't see the final medal-awarding scene, because we left as it was starting, so as to beat the crowds. But we got the movie on Betamax about six months later, and I finally saw it then. Between then, and the release of ESB, I probably saw SW 400 times - it was second only to Grease in viewings in our house.
I saw Empire, also, about a week after it came out, but I'd already read the comic book version, which IIRC had the "I love you too" line. Harrison Ford = so much better at dialogue-writing than George Lucas, nu?
I remember the poster for Revenge of the Jedi and being excited that it was finally coming out. I saw ROTJ the day it came out, and again two days later. It was the first time I took a bus with a friend. And I bought the novelization the next day. Aaron and I have a special place on our bookshelf for the novelizations of the original trilogy, although I keep my novelization of Episode One far, far away from that place.
When the trilogy was rereleased, I saw SW the first night, in a crowded theater full of 20- and 30somethings on the upper east side in NYC. But to see 5 and 6, we decided to brave the Ziegfeld and the incredible line to be able to be a part of something enormous and celebratory and it was great, not just because I bumped into a guy I had about two dates with in college who played Luke at the Toy Show in NYC a few times - he's an excellent fencer, and perpetually cute.
I didn't have to wait in line to get tickets for Ep 1, but we did have to wait in line to get into the theater. I was six months pregnant with Harry, and someone was nice enough to bring a chair over, so I sat in the line for about 90 minutes. And afterwards, I wasn't sure why I'd bothered. When the time came for Ep 2, Aaron and I went about 2-3 weeks after the release, and it was just painful. The frolicking and the romancing were just brain-freezing, and I was glad it was over.
I hadn't planned to see ROTS in theaters, much less this week, but even without reading the spoiler-laden comments, just seeing the moods here on LJ from people who'd seen it was enough to compel me into the theater.
And I'm glad I saw it. In fact, I think I'll order this on DVD. And watch it. But for now, I'm off to grab some ice cream and watch episode 4. Yummy.
heinous_bitca, as edited by smilie117. But I think I need to ask Sabs to animate it and add in a second panel that basically says, "but not at writing dialogue..."Now, for SW Ep. III
Am I the only one who saw the Milennium Falcon in begining, in the first scene where multiple vehicles are docking? Sorta to the righthand side, iirc?
Makinmg the Death Star - it takes 18 years? Wouldn't it have made a smidge more sense if they'd been looking at the plans for it, instead, and, like, approving them or killing the first architect because of some bonehead security flaw, or something?
Along those lines, there's a few other places where a bit more exposition would've worked better and caused the film to make so much more sense, most notably if Palpatine had said to Anakin "You are responsible for Windu's death and it was your anger and desperation that caused it to happen; the Jedi will know this and you can now never go back to them." Otherwise, it seems like within a three hour time frame, he goes from "I think I'll say I'll go along with this Palpatine thing until I learn how to save Padme and then I can get out because I have the power and I won't let him suck me into a vortext of evil" to "Hey! Evil! Fun! I can do that"
Nonetheless, I loved the "rule the galaxy together" bit. Anakin's just looking for lurve, isn't he? That being said, there was one moment which was just so Oedipal as to be disturbing, but now I can't remember for the life of me what, exactly, it was. Anyone?
Beru & owen - shouldn't they have aged a bit more b/c of sun or something? They look too old in IV to have looked this young now.
When Padme said she wanted to return to Naboo and spend time planning a nursery, the thought that went through my mind was, "Jewish women don't do that!" Really - the standard is to not set up the nursery before the baby is born - it's a very ingrained paranoia.
Along the "more exposition, please" lines, does anyone who read the book know if there was any about Anakin having some ingrained power over death so as to not die from the fire caused by the lava?
Is code 65g (or whatever it exactly was) code for "kill all jedi but anakin"? If anakin hadn't turned would the code have been 629 or something? And did they all get some coded image of what Anakin looked like, so they'd know not to kill him?
Why doesn't chewie ever tell Han he's wrong re Kenobi being the last Jedi? I mean, he fought beside Yoda and helped him escape. And does Chewie agree with Han that it's a silly old religion?
Relatedly, does yoda give a list to Kenobi of People Who Know Me And May Help, and that's why the two of them link up in the Cantina?
Doesn't anyone notice that the organas suddenly have a baby? Or do they tell some story like the Sally Field characetr in soapdish who gets pregnant by Kevin Klein (hey! life as a house connection!) but to hide the baby, she invents a sister who died in a car crash and has the child raised the Sally character's mother?
Overall, I liked the resonances with the original trilogy, especially the subtle bits like the tiny scuttling-on-the-floor droids, and I don't have any gripes with continuity in terms of Threepio and R2, mostly because Vader never sees R2 in the original trilogy, and the only time he's in the same room as Threepio is when he's strapped to Chewbaca's back, and I'm not sure he really thinks much on whether it's the same droid or not. The continuity issue with Leia remembering her mother irked me a little, but as I've seen posited elsewhere, maybe Bail's wife died and that's who Leia was refering to, and said woman was sad a lot because Bail brought this baby home but forgot to pick up things like diapers on the way?
Also, Padme? Not pregnant enough-looking to be term with twins, and the twins definitely looked term to me, and given that I saw a full-term baby placed on my belly three seconds out of my uterus about five weeks ago, I think I can be trusted to give an expert opinion in such matters.
I did like how Bail gave his daughter his old and safe and large space cruiser, and not the cute, red, sporty thing. SO much more parental!
I've seen a few other people give their History of Going to SW Movies, so here's mine:
I saw SW about a week or so after it came out, with my dad (not sure if my mom was there), my little sister, my dad's best friend Bart, and Bart's two kids, who were friends with me and my sister. Bart had brought McDonalds from the place across the street into the theater, so we had burgers & fries as we watched. And we didn't see the final medal-awarding scene, because we left as it was starting, so as to beat the crowds. But we got the movie on Betamax about six months later, and I finally saw it then. Between then, and the release of ESB, I probably saw SW 400 times - it was second only to Grease in viewings in our house.
I saw Empire, also, about a week after it came out, but I'd already read the comic book version, which IIRC had the "I love you too" line. Harrison Ford = so much better at dialogue-writing than George Lucas, nu?
I remember the poster for Revenge of the Jedi and being excited that it was finally coming out. I saw ROTJ the day it came out, and again two days later. It was the first time I took a bus with a friend. And I bought the novelization the next day. Aaron and I have a special place on our bookshelf for the novelizations of the original trilogy, although I keep my novelization of Episode One far, far away from that place.
When the trilogy was rereleased, I saw SW the first night, in a crowded theater full of 20- and 30somethings on the upper east side in NYC. But to see 5 and 6, we decided to brave the Ziegfeld and the incredible line to be able to be a part of something enormous and celebratory and it was great, not just because I bumped into a guy I had about two dates with in college who played Luke at the Toy Show in NYC a few times - he's an excellent fencer, and perpetually cute.
I didn't have to wait in line to get tickets for Ep 1, but we did have to wait in line to get into the theater. I was six months pregnant with Harry, and someone was nice enough to bring a chair over, so I sat in the line for about 90 minutes. And afterwards, I wasn't sure why I'd bothered. When the time came for Ep 2, Aaron and I went about 2-3 weeks after the release, and it was just painful. The frolicking and the romancing were just brain-freezing, and I was glad it was over.
I hadn't planned to see ROTS in theaters, much less this week, but even without reading the spoiler-laden comments, just seeing the moods here on LJ from people who'd seen it was enough to compel me into the theater.
And I'm glad I saw it. In fact, I think I'll order this on DVD. And watch it. But for now, I'm off to grab some ice cream and watch episode 4. Yummy.
