Half-blood prince, missing storylines and discoveries

[heidi]

So JKR talks about the HBP and discoveries and such, and now, I'm even more convinced than I was before that the half-blood prince is Godric Gryffindor. The HBP storyline dovetails with a discovery Harry made in CoS - and one of his discoveries was that he was "a true Gryffindor".

She also says the HBP isn't tom riddle because tom is the same person as Voldemort. So much for what Dobby said in CoS...

Comments

[longtimegone]

Oooo cool!

I agree re: Godric Gryffindor. And I think Harry's gonna be the Heir of Gryffindor. I'm probably wrong about the latter, but it's just a hunch.

I can't wait for this book!

[dreagoddess.livejournal.com]

The link I mentioned between books two and six does not, in fact, relate to the 'Half-Blood Prince' (because there is no trace left of the HBP storyline in 'Chamber'.) Rather, it relates to a discovery Harry made in 'Chamber' that foreshadows something that he finds out in 'Prince'.

Definitely Godric, I think. It can't be Slytherin, IMO, because there's too much of Slytherin connected to Riddle and the basilisk. But Harry discovered the sword and that he was a "true Gryffindor" in Chamber. Makes sense for Godric to then be the HBP.

Part of me is thrilled about this, because I love the Founders. But part of me also wants to keep the Founders shadowy and mysterious so I can keep playing around with them free of most canon encumbrances!

[riibu.livejournal.com]

Wow, new info again!

What she says really seems to support 'Godric is the HBP' theory, which is great, because Godric is my vote for the HBP.

I'm happy that she confirmed that Riddle is the same person as Voldemort. If that hadn't been the case, it would have been too far-fetched in my opinion.

[miafitz.livejournal.com]

I was thinking the same thing (re:Godric Gryffindor) and that would figure out with the whole rift between Godric and Salazar as well.

[zorb]

I'm still hanging onto Hagrid or the ghost of Regulus Black. :-D

[cedarlibrarian.livejournal.com]

I'm going to disagree with your idea that Harry is the heir of Gryffindor. Well, I'm going to disagree going on the very little knowledge that JKR likes to feed us. In any event, Tom Riddle, who grew up in a Muggle orphanage, found out he was the heir of Slytherin with apparently no help from anyone else. How he did this I'm not sure, possibly by researching his name? But one would think that *someone* would tell Harry if he was the heir of Gryffindor. Sirius? Dumbledore? McGonagall? Of course, they could all be hiding it from him, too, like the prophecy.

Argh. Ever since we found out that rat was an Animagus, it's been nothing but trouble ;)

[annearchy.livejournal.com]

I see in her latest FAQ that Arthur Weasley won't be named Minister of Magic. That doesn't surprise me; he's popular in the fandom but he's really a mid-level functionary, isn't he? As such he's not likely to be elevated to Minister over "more qualified" candidates, whoever they might be. After all, the MoM is still a bureaucracy :D And Godric Gryffindor has my vote as HBP.

[isiscolo.livejournal.com]

My favorite theory on the next Ministry of Magic comes from a clever person (yes, I wish I could remember who!) who pointed out that Pope Cornelius was succeeded by....Pope Lucius. Of course, Lucius's imprisonment as of the end of OotP makes this unlikely, but still!

[dreagoddess.livejournal.com]

Oh yes, because Dumbledore et al. are so very forthcoming on information to Harry. ;) I still think that Tom had some sort of letter from his mother, or possibly information from the Head of Slytherin once he started school, that let him know he was the Heir. Knowing Dumbledore, he made a conscious decision NOT to tell Harry about all of that "until he was ready".

[hydy.livejournal.com]

wow....that's *Very* clever

[annearchy.livejournal.com]

Wow, that would be a scary thought - Lucius Malfoy as Minister. Of course Lucius could *escape* from Azkaban (aren't the Dementors now not paying attention to the Ministry?) and try to take over the Ministry in a Death Eater coup...*scares self*

[no-remorse.livejournal.com]

I started to doubt the Heir of Gryffindor thing ever since Rowling wrote this: Yes, Mark Evans is back, suckers, and he's the key to everything! He's the Half Blood Prince, he's Harry's Great-Aunt, he's the Heir of Gryffindor, he lives up the Pillar of Storgé and he owns the Mystic Kettle of Nackledirk!' (Possible title of book seven there, must make a note of it).

Since then I believe a heir of Gryffindor is as likely as the Mystic Kettle of Nackledirk.

[bibliophile81.livejournal.com]

I think the HBP could be Gryffindor, but it could just as easily be Slytherin. That would be interesting, considering Slytherin's pureblood mania.

And, I don't pretend to be an expert at history, but if Slytherin were a halfblood, this would be another parallel with WWII/the Nazis. If I recall correctly, there's been some speculation that Hitler's grandfather was Jewish (I don't think it was ever proven). Regardless of that, he didn't really exhibit any of the physical "Aryan" characteristics of the supposed "master race" (i.e. blond hair, blue eyes, etc.).

So I could totally see Salazar Slytherin resenting where he came from so much that he wanted to get rid of all the other halfbloods.

[bibliophile81.livejournal.com]

Oooh, scary. I like it. :D

Would make sense, too, considering what JKR's been saying about "book six being the darkest one yet."

[heidi8.livejournal.com]

So I could totally see Salazar Slytherin resenting where he came from so much that he wanted to get rid of all the other halfbloods.

Hm. But we already have that attitude from Riddle, and I don't think she'd need to show two from the same line, with the same issues.

[bibliophile81.livejournal.com]

Hmmm... true.

But maybe ...

Runs in the family? <-- Grasping at straws, lol!

[persephone-kore.livejournal.com]

Do you have links? I think I've been missing stuff -- the last I remember, I thought she was suggesting that OotP was a low point.

[rj-anderson.livejournal.com]

I must interrupt this thread to express my passionate love of your icon.

As you were...

[lizardlaugh.livejournal.com]

Godric Gryffindor has been my top choice all along, however...

The link I mentioned between books two and six does not, in fact, relate to the 'Half-Blood Prince' (because there is no trace left of the HBP storyline in 'Chamber'.) Rather, it relates to a discovery Harry made in 'Chamber' that foreshadows something that he finds out in 'Prince'.

...and Godric Gryffindor is certainly mentioned, though we don't know his life history or anything, we do know of his quarrel with Slytherin.

[heidi8.livejournal.com]

Right, but there being no trace of the storyline doesn't mean there's no mention of the character. I guess I'm seeing "storyline" as synonymous with plotline - and there is nothing about a storyline/plotline involving or even mentioning Godric Gryffindor's parentage.

[heart-of-wine.livejournal.com]

I agree, it totaly is GG.

P.S. I just got a Blackberry for my birthday and I need tips on how to use it with LJ... any lessons learned, from a pro such as yourself?

Hugs,
Elia

[photosinensis.livejournal.com]

My money's still on Dean. After all, we do know from other locations on her website that she had a plot about him discovering that his father was in fact a wizard that got discarded from the second book. But then again, I could be wrong.

[heidi8.livejournal.com]

Oh, fun! Actually, my bberry didn't have a web browser - that's why I got rid of it actually! - but if there's a bookmark component to your browser on the bberry, then I recommend bookmarking your lj, your flist and the expanded-update page, so they're all easy to get to.

let me know how you like it? And happy birthday!

[persephone-kore.livejournal.com]

The Dean page still says, "Now I don't think his history will ever make it into the books," though. I'd think she might have quietly deleted that by now if it was going to play a major part in HBP.

From the "disgrunted" HP fan

[redina]

Heh, I'm not a disgruntled person; I'm a "disgrunted" person. Anyway, I'll probably still see those who keep insisting the HBP is Tom Riddle. {bitch slap those fans}


and one of his discoveries was that he was "a true Gryffindor"

Hm, and does being a half-blood equate to being a "true Gryffindor" is one question.

I've already posted my 'theory' (i.e. fans wanting to 'share' their 'intelligence') on VeelaInc.

[bibliophile81.livejournal.com]

Ack! Having trouble finding the exact articles. I've read so much in the past few months, it's hard to keep it all straight.

But here's a chat where it's implied, if not stated outright:

http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrwbd.shtml

"Field: Regarding Harrys subconscious feelings, how has it changed from book 1 to book 5?
JK Rowling replies -> Well he's obviously been through a lot since book one and book five was the book when he cracked up a little. In book six, the wizarding world is really at war again and he has to master his own feelings to make himself useful."

If the WW is "really at war," I think that would qualify as being very dark and dire times. Must try to find another article. I know I read it somewhere ...

[moon-hunter.livejournal.com]

do you know...it took me a whole minute when she said that Tom Riddle is the same persom as voldemort, that what Dobby said was still true and actually had a slightly different meaning...I think all this fanfic has slowed my mind...(Halfling leaf???)
My first instinct was Gryffindor - and I never ignore my instinct...:) He's kinda like the opposite to syltherin and so while the story in CoS would be connected, it would actually be a separate story...*Reads back last paragraph and realises it doesn't really make sense* ah well...I think you might know what I mean...:)