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Jan. 19th, 2004 01:57 pmAt various times since the invention of the printing press, there have been attempts to control what is printed on the page, especially when those pages are accessable by children, regardless of whether the works were created *for* children.
This weekend, we talked about the comic book codes of the 1950s, which is still in place for members, although it's been refined twice since its creation in 1954.
The Comic Book Code of 1954
Section A
1) Crimes shall never be presented in such a way as to create sympathy for the criminal, to promote distrust of the forces of law and justice, or to inspire others with a desire to imitate criminals.
(2) No comics shall explicitly present the unique details and methods of a crime.
(3) Policemen, judges, Government officials and respected institutions shall never be presented in such a way as to create disrespect for established authority.
(4) If crime is depicted it shall be as a sordid and unpleasant activity.
(5) Criminals shall not be presented so as to be rendered glamorous or to occupy a position which creates a desire for emulation.
(6) In every instance good shall triumph over evil and the criminal punished for his misdeeds.
(7) Scenes of excessive violence shall be prohibited. Scenes of brutal torture, excessive and unnecessary knife and gunplay, physical agony, gory and gruesome crime shall be eliminated.
(8) No unique or unusual methods of concealing weapons shall be shown.
(9) Instances of law-enforcement officers dying as a result of a criminal’s activities should be discouraged.
(10) The crime of kidnapping shall never be portrayed in any detail, nor shall any profit accrue to the abductor or kidnaper. The criminal or the kidnaper must be punished in every case.
(11) The letters of the word “crime” on a comics-magazine cover shall never be appreciably greater in dimension than the other words contained in the title. The word “crime” shall never appear alone on a cover.
(12) Restraint in the use of the word “crime” in titles or subtitles shall be exercised.
General standards—Part B
(1) No comic magazine shall use the word horror or terror in its title.
(2) All scenes of horror, excessive bloodshed, gory or gruesome crimes, depravity, lust, sadism, masochism shall not be permitted.
(3) All lurid, unsavory, gruesome illustrations shall be eliminated.
(4) Inclusion of stories dealing with evil shall be used or shall be published only where the intent is to illustrate a moral issue and in no case shall evil be presented alluringly, nor so as to injure the sensibilities of the reader.
(5) Scenes dealing with, or instruments associated with walking dead, torture, vampires and vampirism, ghouls, cannibalism, and werewolfism are prohibited.
General standards—Part C
All elements or techniques not specifically mentioned herein, but which are contrary to the spirit and intent of the code, and are considered violations of good taste or decency, shall be prohibited.
Dialogue
(1) Profanity, obscenity, smut, vulgarity, or words or symbols which have acquired undesirable meanings are forbidden.
(2) Special precautions to avoid references to physical afflictions or deformities shall be taken.
(3) Although slang and colloquialisms are acceptable, excessive use should be discouraged and, wherever possible, good grammar shall be employed.
Religion
(1) Ridicule or attack on any religious or racial group is never permissible.
Costume
(1) Nudity in any form is prohibited, as is indecent or undue exposure.
(2) Suggestive and salacious illustration or suggestive posture is unacceptable.
(3) All characters shall be depicted in dress reasonably acceptable to society.
(4) Females shall be drawn realistically without exaggeration of any physical qualities.
NOTE.—It should be recognized that all prohibitions dealing with costume, dialog, or artwork applies as specifically to the cover of a comic magazine as they do to the contents.
Marriage and sex
(1) Divorce shall not be treated humorously nor represented as desirable.
(2) Illicit sex relations are neither to be hinted at nor portrayed. Violent love scenes as well as sexual abnormalities are unacceptable.
(3) Respect for parents, the moral code, and for honorable behavior shall be fostered. A sympathetic understanding of the problems of love is not a license for morbid distortion.
(4) The treatment of live-romance stories shall emphasize the value of the home and the sanctity of marriage.
(5) Passion or romantic interest shall never be treated in such a way as to stimulate the lower and baser emotions.
(6) Seduction and rape shall never be shown or suggested.
(7) Sex perversion or any inference to same is strictly forbidden.
So how many of those rules do we want to impose on fanfic and fanart? On the books available in a library? On the books in our local bookstores?
And what would the impact of A-3, A-10, B-2, B-4, B-5, Dialogue-2, Costume-1 and, of course, Marriage & Sex-3 be on a comic book version of, say, Goblet of Fire or Order of the Phoenix, or, in fact, a serialized verison of Prisoner of Azkaban?
Perhaps the reason we haven't been forced to endure an HP comic book serial yet is because there's no way it can comply with the Code.
This weekend, we talked about the comic book codes of the 1950s, which is still in place for members, although it's been refined twice since its creation in 1954.
The Comic Book Code of 1954
Section A
1) Crimes shall never be presented in such a way as to create sympathy for the criminal, to promote distrust of the forces of law and justice, or to inspire others with a desire to imitate criminals.
(2) No comics shall explicitly present the unique details and methods of a crime.
(3) Policemen, judges, Government officials and respected institutions shall never be presented in such a way as to create disrespect for established authority.
(4) If crime is depicted it shall be as a sordid and unpleasant activity.
(5) Criminals shall not be presented so as to be rendered glamorous or to occupy a position which creates a desire for emulation.
(6) In every instance good shall triumph over evil and the criminal punished for his misdeeds.
(7) Scenes of excessive violence shall be prohibited. Scenes of brutal torture, excessive and unnecessary knife and gunplay, physical agony, gory and gruesome crime shall be eliminated.
(8) No unique or unusual methods of concealing weapons shall be shown.
(9) Instances of law-enforcement officers dying as a result of a criminal’s activities should be discouraged.
(10) The crime of kidnapping shall never be portrayed in any detail, nor shall any profit accrue to the abductor or kidnaper. The criminal or the kidnaper must be punished in every case.
(11) The letters of the word “crime” on a comics-magazine cover shall never be appreciably greater in dimension than the other words contained in the title. The word “crime” shall never appear alone on a cover.
(12) Restraint in the use of the word “crime” in titles or subtitles shall be exercised.
General standards—Part B
(1) No comic magazine shall use the word horror or terror in its title.
(2) All scenes of horror, excessive bloodshed, gory or gruesome crimes, depravity, lust, sadism, masochism shall not be permitted.
(3) All lurid, unsavory, gruesome illustrations shall be eliminated.
(4) Inclusion of stories dealing with evil shall be used or shall be published only where the intent is to illustrate a moral issue and in no case shall evil be presented alluringly, nor so as to injure the sensibilities of the reader.
(5) Scenes dealing with, or instruments associated with walking dead, torture, vampires and vampirism, ghouls, cannibalism, and werewolfism are prohibited.
General standards—Part C
All elements or techniques not specifically mentioned herein, but which are contrary to the spirit and intent of the code, and are considered violations of good taste or decency, shall be prohibited.
Dialogue
(1) Profanity, obscenity, smut, vulgarity, or words or symbols which have acquired undesirable meanings are forbidden.
(2) Special precautions to avoid references to physical afflictions or deformities shall be taken.
(3) Although slang and colloquialisms are acceptable, excessive use should be discouraged and, wherever possible, good grammar shall be employed.
Religion
(1) Ridicule or attack on any religious or racial group is never permissible.
Costume
(1) Nudity in any form is prohibited, as is indecent or undue exposure.
(2) Suggestive and salacious illustration or suggestive posture is unacceptable.
(3) All characters shall be depicted in dress reasonably acceptable to society.
(4) Females shall be drawn realistically without exaggeration of any physical qualities.
NOTE.—It should be recognized that all prohibitions dealing with costume, dialog, or artwork applies as specifically to the cover of a comic magazine as they do to the contents.
Marriage and sex
(1) Divorce shall not be treated humorously nor represented as desirable.
(2) Illicit sex relations are neither to be hinted at nor portrayed. Violent love scenes as well as sexual abnormalities are unacceptable.
(3) Respect for parents, the moral code, and for honorable behavior shall be fostered. A sympathetic understanding of the problems of love is not a license for morbid distortion.
(4) The treatment of live-romance stories shall emphasize the value of the home and the sanctity of marriage.
(5) Passion or romantic interest shall never be treated in such a way as to stimulate the lower and baser emotions.
(6) Seduction and rape shall never be shown or suggested.
(7) Sex perversion or any inference to same is strictly forbidden.
So how many of those rules do we want to impose on fanfic and fanart? On the books available in a library? On the books in our local bookstores?
And what would the impact of A-3, A-10, B-2, B-4, B-5, Dialogue-2, Costume-1 and, of course, Marriage & Sex-3 be on a comic book version of, say, Goblet of Fire or Order of the Phoenix, or, in fact, a serialized verison of Prisoner of Azkaban?
Perhaps the reason we haven't been forced to endure an HP comic book serial yet is because there's no way it can comply with the Code.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-19 11:18 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-19 11:22 am (UTC)Thinking of just the on example.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-19 11:23 am (UTC)On the comics issue
Date: 2004-01-19 11:24 am (UTC)My first husband, who I've known since high school and am still very good friends with, was, until a few years ago, an avid collector of comic books. I remember looking through many of the poplar ones he collected through the 80s and early 90s (the Frank Miller Daredevil issues come to mind) and in looking at these codes, those comics didn't comply in *so* many ways.
I can only imagine that in the depiction of government officials, criminals, sex, torture, etc, today's graphic novels have only become more, er, well, graphic and "disrespectful". In contrast to what I remember the HP books are quite tame.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-19 11:37 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-19 11:39 am (UTC)The code doesn't cover all lines published by supposedly compliant publishers. There's DC's Vertigo line for example, which is what Sandman and Books of Magic were published under.
There are more comic publishers than Marvel and DC, and they don't hold to the Code either.
And, no, I don't want my material censored like this. That's why independent comic book stores are important. They kept comics as an art form alive.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-19 11:44 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-19 02:34 pm (UTC)As for this, from Heidi's original post:
Perhaps the reason we haven't been forced to endure an HP comic book serial yet is because there's no way it can comply with the Code.
I've actually been surprised at this for a while now, that there hasn't been an HP comic book, or, even more, a comic book version of the movies, considering that they're made by Warner Bros, and WB owns DC. But, then again, maybe I shouldn't be surprised, considering how badly they seem to be handling their own comic-based movies these days.
teensy correction
Date: 2004-01-19 06:14 pm (UTC)Sorry. Not-so-closeted Sandman freak.
Gwen
Re: teensy correction
Date: 2004-01-19 07:43 pm (UTC)I seem to read more self-published and small press comics than anything else so that Marvel and DC loop is kind of strange to me. ;)
(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-19 11:43 am (UTC)Hugs,
Kate
(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-19 12:05 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-19 07:50 pm (UTC)sorry but your icon. Heh
(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-19 12:05 pm (UTC)Thanks, Heidi!
(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-19 04:29 pm (UTC)The Code started because some psychologist hack decided to rant against the comics of the day -- some of which were quite extreme (mostly the horror lines) -- and had quotes like (broad paraphrase) 'How could a young person enjoy the simple pleasure of two characters holding hands when he was used to people being thrown through windows?'
Well, because most people didn't read comics for delicate romances, dude.
So, like the music industry did in just the past decade or so, the comics publishers established their own restrictions to keep the federal government from slapping some on them.
However, like
(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-20 10:04 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-20 10:31 am (UTC)Thought not.
*Huffs*