heidi: (wandpoint)
[personal profile] heidi
You know what my problem is about the daily star report re: r/hr in the poa film?

Their use of the phrase 'sex up'. And not just because I think that term applied to 13 year olds is inappropriate (yes, I do feel that way. 15? 16? Not so much. But 13? Hell, yes).

But because I'll bet fifty galleons that the self same paper and the reasers who don't blanch at such a statement would be horribly critical of snogfics set in the poa timeframe, or even ootp, because they're for kids.

Am I being too pre-judgmental?

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Date: 2003-09-28 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] airemay.livejournal.com
Course not. It's very hypocritical.

I agree with you on the phrase sex up. 13 year olds don't sex it up. That's just wrong.

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Date: 2003-09-28 01:50 pm (UTC)
ext_9390: My Phoebers! :D  (Default)
From: [identity profile] chickadilly.livejournal.com
Am I being too pre-judgmental?

Actually I'm a big R/Hr fan and I kind of had a knee jerk reaction to the "sexed up" term. I mean they're 13 years old! But I think that's just the paper being sensational and blowing it out of porportion. I'm guessing when the film's released that the actual 'romantic tension' (or whatever it is) will be much more subtle than the article makes it out to be.

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Date: 2003-09-28 01:50 pm (UTC)
ext_22047: (OotP)
From: [identity profile] owlman.livejournal.com
This piece of 'journalism' was from The Daily Star? I have not actually seen it, but all I can say is:

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Date: 2003-09-28 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
So, can you rank them in order of respectability:
Daily Mail
Daily Star
Daily Mirror
????

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Date: 2003-09-28 02:01 pm (UTC)
ext_22047: (Owl)
From: [identity profile] owlman.livejournal.com
Star, Sun and Mirror, Mail (worst to not quite so bad (though the Mail slides down the scale if it concerns 'British values', a subject they like to promote).

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Date: 2003-09-28 02:32 pm (UTC)
ext_44: (bankformonument)
From: [identity profile] jiggery-pokery.livejournal.com
Bollocks, say I, in an entirely friendly, pub-argument fashion. :-)

LEAST WORST
Daily Mirror
The Sun
Daily Star
Daily Mail
I'D HAVE TO PUT IN SOME MORE HTML TAGS AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT "PERSONAL HELL" MEME TO PLACE IT PROPERLY

...though if the Daily Mail can get me to the USA and back for just the cost of taxes, fees and 35 rags of seething hate and bile then I shall forgive it. Just about.

(I would've put The Currant Bun above the Mirror had it not been for that "Bonkers Bruno Locked Up" debacle last week. Way to lose friends and badly influence people, guys...)

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Date: 2003-09-29 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-ajhalluk585.livejournal.com
(I would've put The Currant Bun above the Mirror had it not been for that "Bonkers Bruno Locked Up" debacle last week. Way to lose friends and badly influence people, guys...)

I still haven't forgiven the Currant Bun for their Hillsborough coverage, for that matter.

And why has no-one decided to villify the Daily Express while we're at it?

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Date: 2003-09-29 01:53 pm (UTC)
ext_22047: (Default)
From: [identity profile] owlman.livejournal.com
I fail to ever consider the Express to be anything approaching a newspaper and so always forget about its very existence.

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Date: 2003-09-29 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
How is it as a budgie cage liner?

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Date: 2003-09-28 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] effervescent.livejournal.com
That was what really annoyed me about that article. I didn't like the word "Sex up" at all, and I hate that they're doing it. It's not something new - movie directors are always doing it - but I still don't like it being applied here.

And I think you're right - they would blanch at it, and they'd be against slash, even non sexual slash. Such is the way of life, I guess.

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Date: 2003-09-28 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
I wasn't even thinking of slash, in particular - but even something like Paradigm of Uncertainty or Irina or Ebony's fics - anything where the characters are aged up and doing things that are appropriate for their age group.

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Date: 2003-09-28 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] effervescent.livejournal.com
Oh yes, I know what you mean - I just automatically put it on to slash as well because that's my main genre. *g* And also because I think they'd be alot more reluctant to "sex up" a m/m pairing if it had existed in the books, than they would have been to do this to Ron/Hermione.

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Date: 2003-09-28 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixielore.livejournal.com
I'm not too fond of that "sex up" thing either. I can imagine 13 yr olds being flirty but sexed up..=/

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Date: 2003-09-28 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sangerin.livejournal.com
Personally - and I wouldn't consider myself a prude - I object to the use of the term "sexed-up" at all, whether in relation to movies or intelligence documents. I think it's unneccessary and irrelevant terminology, and I really wish that it hadn't entered the lexicon as swiftly as it seems to have done in the last couple of weeks.

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Date: 2003-09-28 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nmalfoy.livejournal.com
Their use of the phrase "sex up" makes me think it's either a rumor or a hoax.

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Date: 2003-09-28 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slytherincesss.livejournal.com
Their use of the phrase "sex up" makes me think it's either a rumor or a hoax.

I thought the same thing, actually (and I'm hoping it proves to be the case). But it pisses me off anyway, you know? Because I wouldn't put it past Hollywood. Heidi's point is well taken: 15 or 16 year olds? Okay, that's different. But *thirteen* year olds? It really makes me cringe.

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Date: 2003-09-28 02:21 pm (UTC)
zorb: (I'm up to something.)
From: [personal profile] zorb
Oh man, I can just see it now...

Cuaron: Okay, Emma, Rupert, we added this scene in order to sex things up. So if you'll just- wait, don't start blushing yet, that's later in the sce- hey, where are you going? Come back!

*chases after fleeing young actors*

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Date: 2003-09-28 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] datta.livejournal.com
Eh, I know thirteen year olds who would not object to that terminology. If you say that third year corresponds to 8th grade, American-wise, there's a whole hell of a lot of sex and hormones going on. Even in 7th grade. At least with some of them... Not saying it's right, but it happens. A lot.

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Date: 2003-09-28 03:13 pm (UTC)
cleverthylacine: a cute little thylacine (Default)
From: [personal profile] cleverthylacine
Er. I wouldn't write chan if I hadn't seen so much of it going on around me when I was the age that my characters are.

Even when I was the same age as [livejournal.com profile] luxserpentis I knew classmates who were having sex.

And...you hire the director of Y Tu Mama Tambien, what do you really expect?

*I am huge diegolunatic*

However, Ron and Hermione are NOT having sex, and I hope they never do, so I hope that this is a complete fabrication. The #1 thing I was happy about OOTP, was that I did NOT have to read the R/Hr I had feared.

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Date: 2003-09-30 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
Oh, I remember people who went into bedrooms at bar & bat mitzvahs when I was 12 and most of them were 13. Am not saying it doesn't happen, but I am saying the press doesn't have to talk about it like it's a good thing, especially when the actress involved is only twelve anyway. In 'y tu', weren't the characters 16 and 17? There's a huge difference!

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Date: 2003-09-30 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
Oh, I remember people who went into bedrooms at bar & bat mitzvahs when I was 12 and most of them were 13. Am not saying it doesn't happen, but I am saying the press doesn't have to talk about it like it's a good thing, especially when the actress involved is only twelve anyway. In 'y tu', weren't the characters 16 and 17? There's a huge difference in those 4 years.

Your British cultural correspondent comments

Date: 2003-09-28 02:28 pm (UTC)
ext_44: (bankformonument)
From: [identity profile] jiggery-pokery.livejournal.com
Mmm-m-m-m.

The phrase "sex up" is rather in vogue at the moment and is prone to being used rather more figuratively than literally these days. The issue is that there was an allegation that the government may have, using this precise phrase, "sexed up" its assessment of Iraq's arsenal, notably by possibly having included a claim that Saddam would have been ready to use his weapons of mass destruction at 45 minutes' notice, to buttress the case for war. There's an article about the phrase in the Boston Globe and the conclusion of the report (er) reported on Yahoo! News.

Really pretty much everything that could possibly be sexed up has been sexed up over the last few months, particularly the last few weeks, without sex necessarily having anything to do with it whatsoever - particularly by the more sensationalist, ahem, of the media such as your Ooh Ahh Daily Star.

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Date: 2003-09-28 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luminousmarble.livejournal.com
*facepalm* Whoever wrote that should be slapped silly. On the other hand, a big percentage thirteen-year-olds do have sex on the brain--although I have a feeling that they'd object to the terminology used as 'uncool.' "Sex up? That's soooo last year." Then, as with any population, there's the group that comes up after class and asks you if what their cousin Vic said is true: "I heard you can get warts on your hands if you..."

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Date: 2003-09-28 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmichelle.livejournal.com
I so totally agree with you. I read that, and I'm just thinking, "Do they realize they are talking about a movie that stars 14 year olds?"

Actually, the whole article is BS in my opinion...I mean, it's the Daily Star. Are we really going to take it all that seriously?

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Date: 2003-09-28 02:55 pm (UTC)
ceilidh: (trio nap)
From: [personal profile] ceilidh
No, I don't think you are, because I feel the same. :)

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Date: 2003-09-28 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annearchy.livejournal.com
I can't seem to locate the original Daily Star link but I did find this, which quotes the Daily Star. What the hell does WB need to "sex up" POA for???! They're 13 in the book, for goodness sake. If they're going to have R/Hr "sexual tension" (*spits*) I hope to hell we get to see H/Hr on that hippogriff. Equal time!! LOL

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Date: 2003-09-28 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blonde-dude.livejournal.com
You know... I'm not sure whether I should pass judgement on that article yet. If it proves to be true, then I agree, it would suck. But in the back of my mind, I'm thinking that this is some sort of hoax. I don't understand why they'd steer away from the canon, especially when nothing happens between R & Hr until at least three books later, possibly four.

So, no, you're not being too pre-judgemental, but I'm still a bit hesitant to believe that article.

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Date: 2003-09-28 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sugarjet03.livejournal.com
I agree with you. I just want to see the movie, though, to see if it is true.

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