Last full day at leakycon

[heidi]

And a topic has come up in a few discussions of the film

I'm not the only one, it seems, who wondered if Harry and Ginny were divorced or at least separated by the time of the epilogue, and just accompanying the kids together on such an important day.

Seriously, they don't interact, bump against each other, share a word or a glance, or anything atall in the epilogue. Draco is flirtier with Harry than Ginny is. And I say this as someonewho's been married 15 years -when my husband and I walk soewhere, we bump shoulders or hold hands or share a glance...

And Harry did that with Hermione and Ron. But not Ginny.

The film could have sold me on the two of them as a married couple - or even that Harry was pining for her. But I didn't get a hint of that at all.

Comments

[nmalfoy.livejournal.com]

You've got a point... there wasn't any sense of unity. But Harry was wearing a wedding ring. So I go with seperated.

[abigail89.livejournal.com]

This was my problem with Harry/Ginny all along. They share nothing. My parting thought was, "And then Ginny went to work, and Harry went back home with Ron & Hermione." That was one very Trio-y movie.

[eibbil-libbie.livejournal.com]

+1

[trinity_clare]

Definite +1. H/G never really connected for me in the movies or the books. I can buy it if I squint, and I've read some really great fics that help me wrap my head around it, but otherwise...I mean, in this last movie Harry's more affectionate with Hermione than he is with Ginny, and it isn't even on purpose.

[junesrose.livejournal.com]

You know, as an H/Hr shipper, I know that a lot of my fellow shippers will revel in that observation.

I, however, didn't particularly take notice to that in that particular scene (just saw the film today). They seemed like a couple on a mission; to get their kids to the train on time. However, now that you mention it....yeah, there was NO interaction between the two. But, I never felt that there was.

But, even in the books, (and I know this series is not about how Harry and Ginny live happily ever after), the relationship didn't convince me. It just seemed so contrived.

Heck, I liked H/G in Barb Purdom's Psychic Serpent much better than JKR's version.

Maybe it's just me, but Harry/Cho seem to have more emotion between them, just with a glance.

[eibbil-libbie.livejournal.com]

It's always seemed contrived to me - but as we're Pumpkins, our opinions are poo-poohed as sour grapes.

Alas.

[eibbil-libbie.livejournal.com]

I can't really comment much about the...end. I managed to watch a full minute of it, then bent low and covered my ears. I just couldn't do it.

[ancarett]

The movies aren't big enough to do 90% of the books justice. It's always been about the trio but in a very limited way, even then. *cough, Ron's repeated character assassination as little more than comic relief for several movies, cough*

But, of course, you also know where I stand on the whole shipping saga.

[nmalfoy.livejournal.com]

I always thought Harry would end up with Luna. She seems to understand him more than anyone else (except Hermione, of course).

[nmalfoy.livejournal.com]

Did you notice Albus's familiar and what it was?

[emmagrant01.livejournal.com]

That's definitely always been a popular opinion amongst the H/D crowd for the last four years, that the "nod" in the book meant something more and Harry and Ginny weren't actually together.

But honestly, I didn't see anything there that looked suspicious. There is a nice little moment when Albus falls behind to tie his shoe, and Ginny and Harry share a look that to me very clearly said, "Are you gonna take this or should I?" And then Harry went back to talk to him. That stood out as such a couple moment to me.

[junesrose.livejournal.com]

Yes! OH how I love Luna! And yeah, Hermione is my first choice, but I honestly thought on my first read that perhaps these two would end up together, if H/Hr didn't happen.

[eibbil-libbie.livejournal.com]

I did get that much, yes. The ferret was a nice touch =)

[likebunnies.livejournal.com]

You know I'm a die hard Harry/Hermione person but the film did make me all 'Oh, that's cute!' about Ron and Hermione. But as for Harry and Ginny... what the heck? They could have worked a little harder on that. I suppose they looked like a couple who have been married a long time. I can go a very long time without bumping into my husband. :)

[mmichelle.livejournal.com]

I 100% agree. I'm not a huge fan of H/G because I find it utterly unconvincing, but that shared glance re:Albus seemed very REAL and just like something that would happen between two people who've been together for so long.

[sinisteral.livejournal.com]

The H/G thing has always been a case of "tell, not show," even in the books. And I was really surprised that they gave Cho screen-time at all, given how much was cut out.

[junesrose.livejournal.com]

Lol, This.

This film out of all of them convinced me of R/Hr. {Anvil, meet head}. Yeah, they were cute together, and I totally got why they got together.

But H/G, just...........no.

Also, I honestly didn't notice the distance and/or glance between H/G in that scene; it all happened so fast for me. But, I've been married 22 years and I try to look at or touch my husband as little as possible. Just sayin'.....

>>>>>>>>I'M KIDDING.<<<<<<<



:D

[junesrose.livejournal.com]

See, I missed that too.

I think I had something in my eye at this point.

:(

[junesrose.livejournal.com]

I'm sure I'd take those sour grapes and turn them into a nice chutney to have with my Pumpkin Pie. Just a thought.

:D

[likebunnies.livejournal.com]

I didn't even remember to call my husband today. Oops!

And I would have been the one dropping the kid off at the train. By myself. I've always been the one to do all of that. I guess Ginny should be happy Harry took some time off of work to do that!

[chickadilly.livejournal.com]

There is a nice little moment when Albus falls behind to tie his shoe, and Ginny and Harry share a look that to me very clearly said, "Are you gonna take this or should I?" And then Harry went back to talk to him. That stood out as such a couple moment to me.

Me too.

I don't think the film makers would intentionally go against canon for something like that. (Though there was the Neville/Luna shout out which surprised me and made me giggle because it was really cute!)

But as you point out fanfic writers certainly have been writing harry and Ginny as divorced since the book came out! (I'm surprised I haven't seen an 'EWE since the Carpet Book' icon by now ... or maybe I have and just don't recall ...LOL)

[yahtzee63.livejournal.com]

I have to agree. I was never super-shippy about the HP books; I have a soft spot for Harry/Hermione but always figured it would be Ron/Hermione and Harry/Ginny in the end. I found neither ship overly compelling in the final book but bought them more than not. Whereas Ron/Hermione was far more believable in this film than in any other, Harry/Ginny was even less so. I mean, could that kiss have had any less heat to it? So the fact that they came across as near-strangers in the epilogue sadly fit the rest of their interactions. ITA with those that said his reunion with Cho had more genuine emotion to it.

And Neville/Luna was the best of them all, thanks to a nice moment from Matt Lewis and Evanna Lynch.

I could believe that Ginny and Harry are separated or perhaps amicably divorced by the epilogue. (The wedding ring he's wearing could of course be for his second marriage.)

[imaginarycircus.livejournal.com]

And their kiss was AWFUL! It was like they bumped faces accidentally.

[slytherincesss.livejournal.com]

Good points all around. Of course Bonnie Wright and Dan Radcliffe couldn't possibly be more wooden together, bless 'em. I thought the H/D broom / Fiendfyre scene was far more sensual than the Harry/Ginny ;P

[shocolate.livejournal.com]

Absolutely.

That look was a full conversation. If people don't want to see it, they won't.

[ashkitty.livejournal.com]

I like Harry/Ginny (it was always my canon ship, while Harry/Draco was my fandom one), but good lord, they did a piss poor job of showing any of it happening. I remember thinking somewhere in the Hogwarts battle that they'd barely acknowledged each other's existence. I don't think they're divorced, I just think they're English, and that Steve Kloves is a trio-shipper. (Also Neville/Luna, apparently....)

I still didn't really buy any of the epilogue. The kids were cute, but it was still just 'here is how everybody got married and had kids', only the 'parents' all looked like children playing dress-up.

[femmequixotic]

Oh, Lord, I think Bonnie Wright is a lovely girl and probably a very nice person, but every time she comes on screen in the last few movies I wince at how wooden of an actress she is. D: Particularly when she's with Dan--there is absolutely no chemistry between the two of them at all, which makes it so hard for me to buy the Harry/Ginny in the films. And I like canon!Ginny. Sigh.

[pennswoods.livejournal.com]

LOL! This is the best description of that kiss that I've seen.

[ceilidh]

Heh, I haven't even seen it yet, but I'm down with that.

[tahirire.livejournal.com]

SHUTUP YOU, ALL WAS WELL I SAY, ALL WAS WELL!!!! *sobs*

[cadetsandkings.livejournal.com]

Or, possibly they were smart enough not to force any more chemistry between those two.

[cadetsandkings.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure if the character assassination of Ron was so much intentional as it was working with Rupert's inability to act beyond a sheepish comedic relief spectrum of expressions and line delivery.

[amaz0n-princess.livejournal.com]

oh yeah. Absolutely no chemistry there. Bleh. The kiss in the middle of the battle was so forced it was painful to watch.

[amaz0n-princess.livejournal.com]

yes, yes this!

[heidi8.livejournal.com]

Love your icon, and, yeah. The Salon magazine review of the film said this:

And I guess Harry's so-called paramour Ginny Weasley (Bonnie Wright) makes an appearance, but not so you'd notice it. (Potter fans hate me for this one, but the submerged sexual tension between Harry, Hermione and Ron is a central element of this universe, and one Rowling herself seems barely aware of. Ginny is a transparent and inadequate attempt to defuse it.)

Oh, Salon. Some fans, maybe, but very definitely not all..

[heidi8.livejournal.com]

I also missed it completely. Maybe I'll go see it again, when I have time (like, in September).

[cadetsandkings.livejournal.com]

+1 actually, on further reflection