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As was demonstrated in an interview with Katie Couric, Sarah Palin is unable to name any Supreme Court Case other than Roe v. Wade.

The Rules: Post info about ONE Supreme Court decision, modern or historic, to your lj. (Any decision, as long as it's not Roe v. Wade.) For those who see this on your f-list, take the meme to your OWN lj to spread the fun.

My personal favorites are obviously IP cases:

Tasini v New York Times, which I was actually peripherally involved with when I was the contracts manager for the New York Times Electronic Media Company back in '95 and '96. Basically, it was a contracts and copyrights case where freelance writers fought the NY Times, Lexis/Nexis, Newsday and other publications to retain/regail (depending on your perspective) the copyright in the stories they wrote. While the publishers were allowed to replicate the articles within the paper, in toto and in contex (say, on microfilm) the authors had neither licensed nor assigned to them the right to reproduce or distribute the articles on their own.

Campbell v Acuff-Rose, aka the 2 LIve Crew vs Pretty Woman case, wherein Justice Souter goes off on bass riffs and the law of parody. A very important case for fanficcers, fanartists and vidders!

But I also have to make a quick mention of Bush v Gore. How can you be a politician and not know the details - or at least about the existence of - Bush v Gore?

[Poll #1270705]

Also, Slate Magazine has a piece on diagramming Sarah Palin's sentences. Fun for the English major in you!

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Date: 2008-10-01 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huntress69.livejournal.com
Miranda v Arizona: You should know your rights to avoid self-incrimination, especially your simple right to remain silent and to have a lawyer.

Brown v Board of Ed: Everyone should have a right to an equal education no matter what.

And of course Roe v Wade, cause my cousin had an illegal abortion and had to have surgery years later to fix the mess that was made.

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Date: 2008-10-01 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginsu.livejournal.com
Sarah Palin is unable to name any Supreme Court Case other than Roe v. Wade

...that resulted in a verdict she doesn't like. That does change things a bit.

She might be an extremely well-informed fangirl of the Supreme Court who simply faps her way vigorously through Plessy v. Ferguson and Marbury v. Madison on a nightly basis. We have no way to know.


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Date: 2008-10-02 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
All I can say is that I was shocked that she didn't know Brown Vs. Board of Ed.

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Date: 2008-10-02 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
Mmmm, depends on how you read the follow-up question - "Can you think of any?"

But to parse out the detritus of her reply to that question, she said, "But you know ... as a Vice President, [I] wouldn't be in a position of changing those things but in supporting the law of the land as it reads today."

True, as VP she wouldn't, but the president certainly does have the ability to try to change the Supreme Court, both by who is named to the court if vacancies arise, and in deciding what cases to have the Justice Department take all the way to the Court.

And if you really think that she would agree with Ashcroft v ACLU or Lawrence v. Texas, I have a bridge in Alaska to sell you. :D

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Date: 2008-10-02 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aurorasinistra.livejournal.com
Dred Scott vs. John F.A.Sandford.

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Date: 2008-10-02 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
Yeah, that one pretty much sucked.

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Date: 2008-10-02 01:16 am (UTC)

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Date: 2008-10-02 02:40 am (UTC)
violet_quill: image of a cartoon pink wolf, text reads "electric violet she-wolf" (Default)
From: [personal profile] violet_quill
I had to go old school and say Marbury v. Madison because I've always been so impressed by the pure strategy displayed there.

Though I also have to give a shout-out to Lawrence v. Texas for the precedent that "morality" as a reason doesn't cut it under strict scrutiny. Sarah Palin can put that in her moose and smoke it.

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Date: 2008-10-02 10:50 am (UTC)
ext_1059: (Sir Humphrey)
From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
... I suppose it is useless to point out that Katie Couric didn't ask Sarah Palin to name any other Supreme Court ruling besides Roe v. Wade - she asked her if she could think of any other rulings that she personally disagreed with. Which is not the same thing at all. (Off my bat, I can't immediately think of a recent, unrepealed Supreme Court decision I disagree with either.)

But hey, why get in the way of a good Lj meme?

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Date: 2008-10-02 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
I think that depends on how you hear Katie's follow-up question where she asked "Can you think of any?" I am, btw, sure she knows of other cases and disagrees with others - her statement released in July re the Exxon Valdez case was very emphatic and savvy! - but she froze when answering.

And they weren't talking only about recent cases - Roe v Wade is 35 years old (almost as old as me!).
Edited Date: 2008-10-02 11:16 am (UTC)

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Date: 2008-10-02 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
It was the sigfile in an email I got from a friend but I did a quick google of it, and it showed up here. Does that help?

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Date: 2008-10-02 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
Aw, I'm sorry!

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Date: 2008-10-02 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginsu.livejournal.com
And if you really think that she would agree with Ashcroft v ACLU or Lawrence v. Texas

Oh, what I think is that she might be functionally illiterate.

I'm just not ready to draw conclusions, the way Olbermann did last night; many times, he left out the bit about "that she disagrees with" and just claimed that Palin couldn't name any other Supreme Court cases.

My opinion is that Palin has hung herself so completely, there's no need to tighten the noose.

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Date: 2008-10-02 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ani-bester.livejournal.com
I think that depends on how you hear Katie's follow-up question where she asked "Can you think of any?"

What interpretation? The "I hate Pailin and am so desperate to make her look dumb that I'll go for intentional mis-interpretation rather than actually attacking any of the numerous goofs she did make" interpretation? Right.

By that logic I guess Obama did call Pailin a pig because hey I can totally interpret it that way. Never mind total lack of logical sense in context. Seriously, this is the second dumbest political meme I've seen spread around my F'list.

It's disheartening to me to have to listen to idiot right wing propaganda and lies and then get on my LJ and see idiot left wing propaganda and lies.

Is the truth too hard? It's not even like this truth was that much better but NOOOOO we still have to lie ARGHHHH.



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Date: 2008-10-02 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
Ani, I'm not lying or making things up in this - Katie gave her a wide open follow up question that she could have done *something* with, and she didn't do anything in answering it. Palin spoke out this *summer* about a Supreme Court ruling that she didn't agree with, so it's not like she's spent her whole life not knowing anything about any other Supreme Court case - she certainly knew about at least one back in the summer. Her state has been dealing with the ramifications of the major Exxon oil leak in Valdez for nearly all of her adult lifetime, and she couldn't decry that on national television? I agree with what she said in June, btw - there were serious problems with the case but the Court's ruling was outrageous.

I don't hate, her, and I don't think she's inherently stupid, but I think that she's utterly unable to answer questions that she should be able to answer, and that makes her totally unqualified to be VP.

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Date: 2008-10-02 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ani-bester.livejournal.com
Saying she could have done something with the question is not the same as saying:

As was demonstrated in an interview with Katie Couric, Sarah Palin is unable to name any Supreme Court Case other than Roe v. Wade.

You are saying horribly flubbed the follow up question and looked stupid. Yes she did. No argument there.

The meme, however, is saying she never knew any Supreme Court cases other than Roe V Wade and proved it on the Couric interview. No, that's not true. She knew a few at one point. What she proved in that interview is that in a debate she either can not think on her feet (in which case Biden will eat her for breakfast) and/or is unwilling to make any definable poltical stances by taking a side on any ruling at all ever and sucks ass and evasion. That's a far cry from what the meme claims.

The meme is making an exageratedly negative claim and clearly has a political bias and is the kind of pre-packaged random misinformation IMHO is really harming this election.

*sigh* to which I add, to make Gmth happy, because she had a point, all in my own opinion of course ^^;;;

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