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First? No bloody way is Bela only 24. 26 I would buy, because stress ages you, or something. But not 24.

: handwaves

Second? LOVE the tie-in between the graphic novel and Show. In other words, if you didn't read the comic, there were aspects of the storyline that you didn't have the opportunity to fully appreciate. So I highly recommend buying the collected issues (now with Newly Corrected Impala Canon!) so you can get John's backstory with Dr Benton.

2b. I kind of like how they gave Benton the option to set himself on fire and end his eternal suffering in the grave, maybe. But is an eternity in that box better or worse than an eternity in hell? (Heroes spoiler: For that question, we go to Adam Monroe, under the set of Heroes. [Adam: *screams*] Alright, thank you Adam!)

Third? Oh, the emo pain! When the boys separated! And had their fight! I worried they wouldn't find each other in this episode!

3b. Is Dean on the ten-burgers-a-day diet? Because he's showing emo pain over burgers, hee! And I wish he'd been able to tackle a real zombie infestation; he clearly wanted to!

Fourth? Sammy with his rental cars and their alarms! : clings to normal
(I kinda love how they showed the rental car logo this time.)

Fifth? Has Sammy told Dean about the six months he spent without him in Mystery Spot? Because Dean is a bit freaked out by Sam's willingness to do anything to keep Dean alive - including the science from Benton's book, and even keeping Benton alive to get answers & help from him in the Immortality Quest. But if it can be tied to Sam's knowledge of life with Dean dead, with Dean in hell, then it's more explicable even if it's still a little irrational.

Sixth? There is no six; six has been dragged away by hellhounds.

Seventh? I like that the book ended up in the grave, too. But it isn't destroyed; Sammy *can* go get it, and perhaps Sammy even copied some of the scientific formula into his laptop or into John's journal (Hello, Journal! Nice to see you this week!) so he could recreate the forumula especially with...

The Eight: Smart!Dean. Oh, I love Smart!Dean. And I love the idea that immortality isn't magical, but rather scientific.
And as an aside, I learned this morning that on May 8, 1790, Tallyrand proposed the metric system to the Assembly in France. Ooooh, I just love Bishop Charles Maurice!


Ninth? Oh, the emo!man!pain! The angsting and woe! Oh, wait. I mentioned the emo already. Well, there was so much of it, I had to mention it again.

Oh, boys.

Tenth? Organ theft! Kidneys! Bathtub! Back to the urban legends that started it all! Wheee!

Eleventh? During the exorcism, when the demon said, "your mother!" who thought he was telling the truth and Mary really was behind this, somehow dragged into hell and trying to reassemble her family there with her sons at her side? Is there fic for that theory? Will there be?

And what do we think happens next week? And next season? Dean dies, goes to hell, and Sam does Orpheus and goes to rescue him and battles Lilith? Dean dies and comes back as Chad Michael Murray? Speaking of which, can I read the Kripke interview yet or are there spoilers for next week's ep in it?

Oh, and yes, I know I didn't give a number to the Bela plotline - they wrapped it up well enough, but I fret that the explanation for her backstory is too cliched and minimizes the reality, but they didn't have much time for exposition and less expo is better than more in this case. Bye, Bela - you were never really redeemed or redeemable, and no way are you 24, but I hope Lauren finds success somewhere else.


after they left Dr Benton, they took a quick swing to Hershey, PA for a quick day of rides & chocolate? It's only five hours away at normal-people driving speeds...

Mmmm, Show. You gave good mytharc+MOTW this week. : gives Show fourteen gold stars

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Date: 2008-05-09 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginsu.livejournal.com
But is an eternity in that box better or worse than an eternity in hell?

That bit seemed to be an odd Tarantino homage -- live burial, and the line "wakey wakey, eggs and bacey" as uttered by the burier, are both found in Kill Bill 2.

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Date: 2008-05-09 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
Which Dean has clearly seen a million times. I've seen snips of Kill Bill, but never all the way through.

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Date: 2008-05-09 02:38 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] roguebitch.livejournal.com

If the devil is six, then God is seven? *grins* /pixies

It makes me wonder, if Sam had those extra six months, did he do any research about the deal? I mean, just to satisfy his own curiosity? Or did he become RoboSam, killing machine?

I totally think Mary has a connection to Hell, but I think I told you my theory about that.

I think it'd be funny if someone made the Winchester Map of the US, which I think would be vastly more compact than the *real* US. *grins*

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Date: 2008-05-09 02:40 am (UTC)
gelliaclodiana: (mary burning)
From: [personal profile] gelliaclodiana
I once floated the idea that Mary is Lucifer, but it never found its way into a fic.

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Date: 2008-05-09 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amchara.livejournal.com
*raises hand* I thought it might be Mary too when the demon said that. I hope there's fic! They've also dropped that sub-plot from way back early S3 when we found out that all of Mary's friends died. I hope they bring it back next season.

I think there's going to be an Orpheus type plot next season, but hopefully not with Dean back as Chad Michael Murphy. :P

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Date: 2008-05-09 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
They've also dropped that sub-plot from way back early S3 when we found out that all of Mary's friends died. I hope they bring it back next season.

Did you read the first issue of the Rising Son comic?


And mmm, Orpheus. I am strongly tempted to figure out a way to vid that concept, but perhaps with Dean coming back in various bodies - CMM, Milo Ventimiglia, Paris Hilton - we could run through a slew of Jared's former co-stars...

: ponders, finishes storyboarding of Bela vid for editing tomorrow

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Date: 2008-05-09 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lembeau.livejournal.com
1. I agree, 24? That means she's as old as Sam, and for some reason that didn't really gel with me. I always figured her to be late 20's at least. I know that her crying at the end didn't feel as if it kept in character with her strong attitude, but I figure it had probably just hit her what was going to happen, and if the thought of Hell won't make you cry, then what? :OP

4. That amused me too!! You know secretly, when he's waiting for the lights to change at an intersection, he can't help himself from hitting the lock/unlock button on the remote keys.

7. I noticed the book too, and did you see Sam's face when they cut to him? I had wondered briefly why they didn't destroy it or even put it in with the Doc, but then Sam's face made it make sense.

9. Loved the emo!man!pain, lol. And they do it so prettily too. *sigh*

11. They totally managed to psych me out in that moment. I gasped. And then realized I'd almost been had.

Oh show. *loves* You're going to kill me next week, aren't you?

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Date: 2008-05-09 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deirdre-c.livejournal.com
HA! I thought THE SAME THING when the demon said "Your mother". *high fives* My brain immediately did this entire long OMGTHATWOULDBETHEMOSTAWESOMETWISTINTHEHISTORYOFTHEWORLD flail, until the next line. Boo.

Please fandom. Write THAT!

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Date: 2008-05-09 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwendolyngrace.livejournal.com
I was actually looking for my comics during the commercial break! Woe! I cannot find them! But I was certain that Doc Benton was a lift from the graphic. Yay. :Am right.

(Which reminds me, did you get a chance to get the other cover for me? Please?)

I didn't think they were offering him immolation, either, but I can buy it, I guess. Seems to me they could have found a more final way to kill him, but okay.

I agree Bela's explanation is too pat (I'm not too happy about Lilith being the contract holder, either) though at the same time, I wish they had thought of tying her into the mythology sooner, because I think it would have given her more interest earlier. I get a little tired of "It's not working; kill it" as the problem-solving mechanism, though.

Boys working apart = BAD. Oh, Sam. You're not thinking at all, dude.

Meh. Will watch again. May like better. Slapped forehead about 4 times at least....

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Date: 2008-05-09 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lembeau.livejournal.com
Oh I forgot 5!! That was huge!! I don't think Sam's said anything to Dean about it at all. Partly because he figures Dean has enough to worry about than something that in a twisted way kind of didn't really happen. And secondly because I think it scared Sam what he'd become and he's afraid that Dean wouldn't understand, maybe even be ashamed of him, so he didn't say anything. He's so desperate about keeping Dean alive, no matter what because he doesn't want to lose Dean and also because he what he might become if he does lose him.

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Date: 2008-05-09 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunalovegoddess.livejournal.com
6. Six being dragged away by hellhounds cracks me up for many reasons, one being that my husband's username is Number_6.

10. Was anyone else disappointed that Dr. Benton's secret headquarters was not located deep within Candy Mountain?

As for the rest, word. Kudos to Billy Drago for another creepy performance. In my humble, he's one of the best villain character actors around.

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Date: 2008-05-09 07:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlmostlikely.livejournal.com
Sixth? There is no six; six has been dragged away by hellhounds.

HEEE!! *g*

OMG, Heidi. This episode was so intense (and scary). I don't know how I'm gonna get through the finale!

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Date: 2008-05-09 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magnolialane.livejournal.com
Damn, did they knock that one out of the park or what? I had to watch it twice last night. So much angsty, gory goodness to love.

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Date: 2008-05-11 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shelaghc.livejournal.com
Finally watching this ep tonight.

If there's one thing that *really* *really* *really* screws up my psyche it's what happened in this ep that also happened in Heroes.

I don't know if I'll ever be able to watch this ep again.
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