The housing situation
Sep. 1st, 2005 03:31 pmAngua, Selkie and others who may have space available for displaced people -
bkdelong has some links and a fabulous concept on his LJ...
Now, I said yesterday that I wasn't going to be political.
This isn't political. It's about people; it's about lives.
Speaker of the House Hastert doesn't think it makes sense to rebuild New Orleans
Condi Rice is shoe shopping when countries like Canada and Jamaica want to lend support to the search & rescue mission in the Gulf Coast.
But, of course, what search & rescue mission? FEMA has suspended some of its operations in New Orleans but nobody seems to know which operations are actually continuing.
Carnival Cruise Lines has been looking into using some of its ships to house the displaced, but why wasn't a plan for such things put into place as an option of last resort months, if not years, ago? They have ships that travel in and out of Mobile; they could be so useful for thousands of people as temporary housing right now.
Why weren't naval vessels sent out of Virginia on Sunday, instead of yesterday? They could've been in the gulf by now; why aren't they?
Bush diverted money that had been designated to help shore up the levees to Iraq. Bush enabled the sending of *high water vehicles* to Iraq from the Gulf Coast - which area d'ya think *normally* needs them more?
And here's the worst. George Bush went on GMA this morning, and he said, "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees."
Did he lie, or is he that stupid?
I think it is entirely possible that nobody *told* him that the levees might be breached. The man doesn't read the papers or watch the news under normal circumstances, so he relies a lot on what he's told. And it's possible that nobody showed him this article from Kansas ("The fear was that flooding could overrun the levees and turn New Orleans into a toxic lake filled with chemicals and petroleum from refineries, as well as waste from ruined septic systems.") or this one from New Mexico ("Had Katrina not shifted, hurricane waters could have spilled over levees and swamped the saucer-shaped city in a toxic soup of refinery chemicals, sewage and human bodies.")
If that's the case, then he should fire the idiots who didn't fully inform him.
What's the likelihood of that?
I'm going to wrap this one up with
Now, I said yesterday that I wasn't going to be political.
This isn't political. It's about people; it's about lives.
Speaker of the House Hastert doesn't think it makes sense to rebuild New Orleans
Condi Rice is shoe shopping when countries like Canada and Jamaica want to lend support to the search & rescue mission in the Gulf Coast.
But, of course, what search & rescue mission? FEMA has suspended some of its operations in New Orleans but nobody seems to know which operations are actually continuing.
Carnival Cruise Lines has been looking into using some of its ships to house the displaced, but why wasn't a plan for such things put into place as an option of last resort months, if not years, ago? They have ships that travel in and out of Mobile; they could be so useful for thousands of people as temporary housing right now.
Why weren't naval vessels sent out of Virginia on Sunday, instead of yesterday? They could've been in the gulf by now; why aren't they?
Bush diverted money that had been designated to help shore up the levees to Iraq. Bush enabled the sending of *high water vehicles* to Iraq from the Gulf Coast - which area d'ya think *normally* needs them more?
And here's the worst. George Bush went on GMA this morning, and he said, "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees."
Did he lie, or is he that stupid?
I think it is entirely possible that nobody *told* him that the levees might be breached. The man doesn't read the papers or watch the news under normal circumstances, so he relies a lot on what he's told. And it's possible that nobody showed him this article from Kansas ("The fear was that flooding could overrun the levees and turn New Orleans into a toxic lake filled with chemicals and petroleum from refineries, as well as waste from ruined septic systems.") or this one from New Mexico ("Had Katrina not shifted, hurricane waters could have spilled over levees and swamped the saucer-shaped city in a toxic soup of refinery chemicals, sewage and human bodies.")
If that's the case, then he should fire the idiots who didn't fully inform him.
What's the likelihood of that?
I'm going to wrap this one up with
[L]eadership is everything we are not getting from this White House. Instead of challenging us to push ourselves to accomplish great things, we get platitudes. We can do better than that. I hope you had a chance to read today's editorial in the New York Times, called "Waiting for a Leader." If you haven't read it yet, please take a few minutes to do it. The Times is asking an important question. It's one I've been asking for a long time as well: Where is the leadership in America today?
. . . [J]ust this past week, there was at least 36 hours notice that a major hurricane was going to hit the Gulf Coast, including likely a devastating blow to New Orleans, which certainly came to pass. The President continued with his regular schedule on Monday and Tuesday in California, Arizona, and Texas to hold some staged Medicare events and enjoy more vacation time, while finally returning to the White House yesterday. The joint task force including National Guard set up by the Pentagon failed to be on the scene in New Orleans in a timely manner to stop the looting and assist in the evacuation. Where is the leadership?
Then just this morning, the President claimed that no one could have anticipated the levee breaches we've seen in New Orleans after Katrina hit. That's not leadership, that's an excuse. In fact, people have predicted this kind of disaster for many years, including President Bush's own FEMA in 2001, when they ranked hurricane flood damage to New Orleans among the three likeliest, most catastrophic disasters facing America. Instead, funding was significantly cut back, leaving key engineering projects on hold. Instead, this Administration focused on the war in Iraq, tax cuts, and private sector economic growth without asking the American people to make needed sacrifices for the good of the country. Again I ask you, where is the leadership?
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Date: 2005-09-01 08:04 pm (UTC)Off to write a nasty letter to the speaker of the house.
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Date: 2005-09-01 08:08 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-09-01 08:15 pm (UTC)Now, I am definitely NOT saying that all members of said party are solely focused on that - I know quite well that they're not. But Ken? Yeah, death taxes, not actual death. I need another "meh, misery" icon.
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Date: 2005-09-01 08:18 pm (UTC)I'm not sure I can believe the shoe buying story, though. It just seems too horrible to be true.
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Date: 2005-09-01 08:20 pm (UTC)But no. If Bush's approval rating doesn't plummet to the teens after this fiasco, then we Americans definitely deserve the government that is currently in power.
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Date: 2005-09-01 08:22 pm (UTC)X-[
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Date: 2005-09-01 08:37 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2005-09-01 08:52 pm (UTC)Re: This might make me unpopular
Date: 2005-09-01 09:11 pm (UTC)As for why people stayed behind: they were poor and they had no other means to get out. No money for gas, no cars. The only people who could leave were the ones who could afford to.
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Date: 2005-09-01 09:29 pm (UTC)As for Bush, I no longer feel surprised by anything he says or does, or by the failure of the bulk of the American people to comprehend the grotesque reality of his administration.
I seriously think he could explain away nuking the city of San Francisco; the alternative for his supporters would mean abandoning their pet political variation on David Koresh.
Either you believe what he says or you don't. They do. I don't.
It's no surprise he appeals to the religious right. In the end, they make the most monumental decisions of their lives based on faith... and faith is, by definition, a belief unjustified by any evidence.
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Date: 2005-09-01 09:35 pm (UTC)Assuming the vote tally in November was accurate, I think this is already true.
I've essentially given up on the idea that sovereign nations should rule the world.
I'm ready to move on to the Star Trek concept of a global government, which is to current nations as the federal government is to states.
Would Bush have invaded Iraq if the entire world population got to cast ballots a year and a half later? Oh, I doubt it.
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Date: 2005-09-01 09:56 pm (UTC)Re: This might make me unpopular
Date: 2005-09-01 10:12 pm (UTC)I want to know, why government officials, instead of attending a what? $200 a plate dinner, they didn't use that money to pay for busses to move people who were too poor to leave on their own. If nothing else they could have been bussed to TX and allowed to stay at government run campgrounds until the storm had passed.
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Date: 2005-09-01 10:25 pm (UTC)Seriously.
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Date: 2005-09-01 10:42 pm (UTC)Stupid. He is the 'King of Low EWxpectations'. When he screws up and people die, we forgive him because we know that he's an idiot. When he does average or better, we applaud him because we never expected it.
Head of Homeland Security was asked today, "Are you confident that you have people in place to secure New Orleans?" His resonse, "I am confident that we have people in place, or on the way, to secure the city."
Might want to read this
Wonder if anyone will count the LA National Guard troops that are trained specifically in Urban Security and see how many are now in Iraq instead of at home saving their neighbors live's?
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Date: 2005-09-01 11:05 pm (UTC)And, like someone else already said, rather than firing those who DON'T tell him what he needs to hear, Bush fires those who tell him what he doesn't want to hear.
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Date: 2005-09-01 11:05 pm (UTC)If tour guides can now this, why cna't the President.
But I suppose our current governmetn can't be asked ot bother with thier own nation whent they're too busy trying to
take overinstall peace in other countries.*feh*
Parts of Dallas right now are begining to look like a refugee camp. My workplace is compiling specific lists for specific families in this area so they cna get exatly what they need.
Have you heard about the insurance companies?
Most insurances won't cover flood in NEw Orleans, but they cover hurricanes.
The insurance companies are claiming they don't ened to pay anyone anythign because the damage was caused be floods not hurricanes.
It's like a two way thing right now. My community and local peopek are pulling together adn doing so much it's amazing, but the governemtn and the companies, the peopel who shoudl be doing something are ducking out left and right and it makes me sick.
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Date: 2005-09-01 11:14 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-09-01 11:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-09-02 12:47 am (UTC)One of the things that disappoints me most about Bush is all the vacations he takes. He has no business being in Crawford for a month at a time when he is only serving eight years in office. Yes, being President is stressful, and occasional weekends at Camp David are fine, but taking several weeks off when we're in a situation of war in the first place is inexcusable. He was hired by this country to work, and work hard. This isn't a low-stress position. If I were a boss, I would have fired him years ago (and I suppose that's what I tried to do when I voted against him last November).
I hope people will learn from this experience, but they probably won't, and that's going to have tragic consequences again one day.
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Date: 2005-09-02 02:45 am (UTC)And when we can moblize thousands of troops and send them thousands of miles away, fully supplied but can't get a hold on a domestic situation 72 hours+ later.
Zero leadership. The prez had to cut short his vacation to deal with this, poor guy. He should have just relaxed and finished it out, he'd be doing as much good as he is now.
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Date: 2005-09-02 03:50 am (UTC)Re: This might make me unpopular
Date: 2005-09-02 04:53 am (UTC)SUre the building code needs updating and the levees need more work. Sure it is a risk to live in the city. But we have to rebuild there. NOT rebuildiung there will cause others to pay far more in transportation costs for goods, not to mention gas prices skyrcketing further than they have.
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Date: 2005-09-02 05:24 am (UTC)Ask him now, and he wouldn't piss on the dude from a great height.
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Date: 2005-09-02 03:16 pm (UTC)If you have space in your home, go to this site and fill out the form. I've done it, and have been contacted. I'm hoping to be able to help some people out soon. :-)
Veering off on a slight tangent...
Date: 2005-09-02 04:05 pm (UTC)Now, apparently, they're avoiding praising themselves for their brilliant choice's leadership in this crisis. They're not saying anything at all, really. Where's all the self-righteousness now?
Addressing a comment upstream:
If every major cruise line offered only their smallest ship for refugee housing, we'd be talking about thousands and thousands of people put up with no particular loss of revenue to the companies. They build them bigger and bigger -- I watch them in and out of the port all the time -- and they're the size of floating Las Vegas hotels. If they cleared out some of the function rooms for shelter-style sleeping, they'd nearly double the space available. Might not be luxurious, but it'd be dry....
Feeding people would become the bigger expense, quite rapidly.
Re: Veering off on a slight tangent...
Date: 2005-09-02 04:54 pm (UTC)Re: This might make me unpopular
Date: 2005-09-02 05:29 pm (UTC)The current (past?) residents of NOLA are poor, very poor. They could not afford flood insurance before, and I highly doubt that they would be able to afford it in the future, assuming they return to the city. Whch, I'm starting to think, will not happen.
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Date: 2005-09-02 06:11 pm (UTC)