Because...

[heidi]

So because the Bush admin wanted to delay any attack on Fallujah until after the election, the kidnappings and murders of civillians including probably Ken Bigley went on unchecked?

Tony Blair - this is your fault, too.

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[pinguthegreek.livejournal.com]

Tony Blair - this is your fault, too.

Well I didn't vote for him nor would I ever. Bliar is his name.

[annearchy.livejournal.com]

It's called managing events... Grrrr.

[pinguthegreek.livejournal.com]

But who else to take over ? I mean, would you trust the other two ?

[pinguthegreek.livejournal.com]

No. You echo my view exactly. We so need a new country.

[annearchy.livejournal.com]

YOU need a new country? How do you think we feel (well the 55 million of us who voted against Bush)?!

[pinguthegreek.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Ok, we need a biiiig country for all of us then !

[shelaghc.livejournal.com]

Maybe we just all need to climb aboard that privately owned spaceship and start a new planet of our own?

We can't do worse....

[annearchy.livejournal.com]

As long as no one expects me to take any KOOL-AID before we climb on the space ship...

[bkdelong.livejournal.com]

And Bush waited for good reason:

http://fallujapictures.blogspot.com

WARNING.....very graphic pictures.

[amandageist.livejournal.com]

I think this is a fair question. If Bush *had* attacked Fallujah earlier, would you have had anything good to say about *that*? I think I would have seen a similar negative, "this figures"-type post from you in *that* event, as well. I think your bias is so complete and perfectly in place that if Bush suddenly appeared on your doorstep to sit at your kitchen table to sign bills into law that you personally wrote and support 100%, you would struggle to avoid any positive reaction--and succeed. He would have done a media event. He would have done it for nefarious and manipulative reasons. He would have tracked mud on your carpet. *Something.* Your take is so uniformly negative I'm wondering if it's time to cut you free from my friends list; how can anyone live, seeing so negatively all the time?

~Amanda

[heidi8.livejournal.com]

You know, you are clearly and understandably having a horrible day but that's no reason to take it out on me.
Depending on how much attention you paid to some of the political discussion threads in aug/sept/oct, you'd see me - and others - discussing comments from the US and UK government regarding the delay in attacking Fallujah, and comments from Allawdi along the same lines. I don't want to think my government is full of liars and manipulative fucks - I want to think they're doing things for the right reason - and given the terorizing of the civillians in Iraq, had that been provided as even one of a few reasons - to find the terror cels, including the one I heard about today which said something along the lines of "al qaeda hq" on the front door, I would've supported the concept (although, of course, I can't swear that I would've been 100% behind all the actions therein). I support 100% the *fact* that we've taken steps to retake Fallujah. I think it was necessary - and I'm not the only one who wondered what took them so long.

[heidi8.livejournal.com]

No, the US elections. The administration waited to invade Fallujah - the city has been held by insurgents at least since the summer - whether it was august or june I've now forgotten, though. And the reason it might've made a difference to the murdered hostages is that if their safe spaces in Fallujah had been overrun by US military a few months ago (a) possibly the kidnappings would've stopped as the kidnappers wouldn't've had somewhere to keep their hostages and (b) those individual hostages might have been saved, or never taken in the first place. There was an outcry in the UK a few months back regarding the British hostages and complaints from their families that Blair was giving in to Bush's political needs in not seeking out the kidnappers - at the time I personally wasn't sure what precisely Blair could've done - but as it turns out searching Fallujah for the kidnappers would at least have been a step.

[heidi8.livejournal.com]

But it's not like those images ended up in the mainstream press, anyway. To be honest, I was supporting an attack on Fallujah over the summer, because it clearly was necessary. And the bit that bothers me most is that more died becaise of the delays.

[heidi8.livejournal.com]

Oh, btw - A post that is not negative about Dubya. And had I been online this weekend, I probably would've posted something about some members of his own party defying him on the 9/11-intelligence bill; I think he's more in the right than they are, although I do think there are some elements of the bill which are more watered down than is ideal. And I also complimented Bush just before the election when he said he was for civil unions - his brother, who is my governer, isn't even interested in a state law barring civil unions, and I think that's more right-track then some in Congress on this issue.

[shezan.livejournal.com]

It would be nice if once, you know, just once, your post started by blaming the actual torturers, kidnappers & killers.

There is NO bloody proof that the Fallujah attack was delayed until after the election for the base motives you assume in such a kneejerk fashion; and in fact, in an interview to Prospect this month, Paul Wolfowitz says the received wisdom at the Pentagon was that it would have helped the Bush campaign if the attack had started sooner.

Frankly, I'm seeing red when I read posts like this.

[shezan.livejournal.com]

Word.

[no-remorse.livejournal.com]

To quote annamilton's fanfic on the topic of British elections - especially the last one: As for the more directly affecting question of Labour/Conservative, the answer is also neither: when faced with a choice between pseudo-pacifist turned anti-freedom war-hawk Tony Blair and William "14 pints a day, my brain is jelly" Hague, the obvious reaction is to run for the hills. Quickly.